export_descr_unit

[leader_of_men]

i have change characteristics for a roman velite unit in the export_descr_unit but i cant get the game to work now do i have to change other files and if so wich ones ?

[Kaweh]

No, it's enough to make this changes in export_descr_unit.txt, me thinks. Depends on which changes, thought... Could you copy the section you changed into your post?
(unmodded and modded would be very helpful)

K.K

[Halie Satanus]

What did you change? and what happens when the game does not work, does it crash to desktop.

[Kaweh]

Also use the "show_err" tag, then you should get an error message which tells you where (at which line in which file) the problem lies...

K.K

[leader_of_men]

Unmodded

type roman velite
dictionary roman_velite ; Velites
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_velite, 40, 0, 0.8
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 2, javelin, 50, 6, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr thrown
stat_sec 5, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 2, 3, 2, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 4, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 270, 170, 30, 40, 270
ownership roman

modded

type roman velite
dictionary roman_velite ; Velites
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_velite, 40, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, horde
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 8, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec no, no, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 2, 3, 2, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 6, impetuos, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 270, 170, 30, 40, 270
ownership roman

and yes its CTD

[leader_of_men]

sorry im a noob so i dont know what "show_err" tag is

[Kaweh]

Well, I'm not sure, but this line seems... wrong, somehow: stat_sec no, no, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1

Show Error: right click on the desktop icon, then in the add "-show_err" at the end of the path without the " and a space befor it.

K.K

[Abraxas]

the secondary weapon should be;

stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1

***Edit***

impetuous, not impetuos

[leader_of_men]

thanks it works now but when i play in game the velite dont have a weapon in there hand only have there shield

[Lusted]

To change a units weapons you need to edit the units model

[leader_of_men]

yeah on 3dsmax i done that thanks

[Lusted]

Did you name the sword primary weapon in 3ds max?

[Red Harvest]

He might need to get rid of the javelinman skeleton for the unit in DMB as well. He has completely changed the unit so that it is only a sword unit now.

[leader_of_men]

i made more mistakes modding but i deleted the backup file by accident i cant find the mistakes

type roman mirmillo gladiator
dictionary roman_mirmillo_gladiator ; Mirmillo Gladiators
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier roman_mirmillo_gladiator, 40, 0, 1.3
attributes sea_faring, can_sap, very_hardy
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 2, horde
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 16, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,0.73
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 3, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 2, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 14, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 700, 260, 70, 110, 700
ownership romans brutii, slave

type roman praetorian cavalry
dictionary roman_praetorian_cavalry ; Praetorian Cavalry
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier roman_praetorian_cavalry, 27, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
attributes sea_faring, hardy
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 15, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 7, 2, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 1, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 0, 0, -6, 0
stat_mental 7, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 840, 240, 90, 130, 840
ownership romans_julii,romans_brutii,romans_scipii,romans_senate

type roman light cavalry
dictionary roman_light_cavalry ; Equites
category cavalry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_equites, 27, 0, 1
mount light horse
attributes sea_faring
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 7, 6, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 1, 3, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 0, 0, -6, 0
stat_mental 4, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 420, 110, 50, 70, 420
ownership roman

type roman archer
dictionary roman_archer ; Roman Archers
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_archer, 40, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 4, 1, arrow, 120, 30, missile, archery, piercing, none, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 6, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 2, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 4, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 170, 170, 20, 30, 190
ownership romans_julii,romans_brutii,romans_scipii,romans_senate

type roman hastati
dictionary roman_hastati ; Hastati
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_hastati, 40, 0, 1
attributes sea_faring, frighten_foot, can_sap
formation 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, horde
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 12, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 2, 3, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 1, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 2, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 6, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 440, 170, 50, 70, 440
ownership roman

type roman velite
dictionary roman_velite ; Velites
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_velite, 40, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, can_sap
formation 1.6, 2, 3.2, 4, 3, horde
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 8, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 1, 2, 1, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 2, 0, 3, 0
stat_mental 6, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 270, 170, 30, 40, 270
ownership roman

[Halie Satanus]

If you can't get a back up from someone, or no one can spot the errors, copy the stats from similar units and start from there. as for the max weapon swap did you connect the sword in the schematic view (just checking it's easy to overlook) .
good luck.

[Red Harvest]

There are errors in the ownership lines of about half of those, spaces where there shouldn't be, and missing underscores. You really need to back up your files before you edit.

Can you really have "frighten_foot" for an infantry unit?

[leader_of_men]

for some strange reason there isnt any spaces in senate on my export_descr_unit file and i put an underscore in romans_brutii and i deletd frighten_foot from hastati infantry because i wasnt sure if that worked aswell and it still crashes to desktop

[Red Harvest]

So are you saying you changed half a dozen units without checking to see if they would work and without backing up, then started getting CTD's? If so then you should probably just treat this as a learning experience and start over. There are reasons for doing modding incrementally and methodically. If you get a CTD without a show error message, then you should undo the last thing you did, then retest, and repeat until things work again. If you change 100 entries, then get a crash when you test it, you have a lot more work to do finding the source of the CTD than if you change 1 entry or 10 entries then test.

If your copy and pastes are showing extra spaces then something might be wrong with the way you are saving/editing the files (might be the configuration or diplay of your text editor or some inadverdent tabs/etc. If you don't think the spaces are there you should delete that part of the entry and retype it to be certain.

[Amorphos]

Frighten foot does work – i used it recently for the germans as they were apparently invinsible. In fact i used frighten mounted as well.

I created a text file with all the attributes like trained, highly_trained etc, cut n pasting is far better than writing text, as the spelling is always the original.

[W4SPY]

if i lower the last number on formation line does that mean that each formation will be closer when grouped ie-:shield wall....because i changed a schiltrom unit to use shield wall but they dont group like i want...spaces between each unit

be greatfull for a reply

W4SPY

formation 1.0, 0, 2.0, 2.0, 5, square, shield_wall


the number underlined