Event Counter and Faction that dies

[Polycarpe]

Hi, I am wondering if it's possible to make an event counter about a faction that die? For example let's take England and I destroy Wales

recruit_pool "Yeoman Archers" 1 0.2 2 0 requires factions { barons_alliance, england, } and event_counter Archery_Law 1 and not event_counter_wales_destroyed

recruit_pool "Yeoman Archers" 1 0.3 2 0 requires factions { barons_alliance, england, } and event_counter Archery_Law 1 and event_counter_wales_destroyed

As you can see, if Wales is gone, England will get a bonus on refill rate of Yeomen archers.
But let's say something else, more specific, that event will occur only if England eliminate Wales.
If Wales is destroyed but not by England, that bonus will not occur and to increase it I will tag a special hidden resource like this

recruit_pool "Yeoman Archers" 1 0.2 2 0 requires factions { barons_alliance, england, } and event_counter Archery_Law 1 and not event_counter_wales_destroyed or not hidden_resource wales_kingdom

recruit_pool "Yeoman Archers" 1 0.3 2 0 requires factions { barons_alliance, england, } and event_counter Archery_Law 1 and event_counter_wales_destroyed or hidden_resource wales_kingdom

So, not the hidden_resource part but the destroy counter, it's that possible? I tried to find in the docudemon and couldn't find that condition
Regards.

[Withwnar]

I take it that you mean something like "and not event_counter wales_destroyed" (space not _).

From memory you can't use a "not" with event_counter: use 0 instead... "and event_counter wales_destroyed 0".

You might need to ensure that this event counter has actually been set to 0. Relying on it to be 0 simply because nothing has yet set it to 1 can result in strange behaviour, though this might only apply to I_EventCounter.

And beware of using NOT combined with ANDs and ORs; it may not work as expected. I have a link somewhere... I'll try and dig it up...

EDIT: this is the link I was thinking of.

[Polycarpe]

I take it that you mean something like "and not event_counter wales_destroyed" (space not _).

From memory you can't use a "not" with event_counter: use 0 instead... "and event_counter wales_destroyed 0".

You might need to ensure that this event counter has actually been set to 0. Relying on it to be 0 simply because nothing has yet set it to 1 can result in strange behaviour, though this might only apply to I_EventCounter.

And beware of using NOT combined with ANDs and ORs; it may not work as expected. I have a link somewhere... I'll try and dig it up...

EDIT: this is the link I was thinking of.

Strange, I've set my event counters with a not and still work? Guess to be sure I'll stick with the 0 and 1.
Yeah, I've wrote too fast, I know that I must not put "_" in between.
Seems the easiest option would be to just stick with an hidden resource that regroups all wales so England need to control all native wales in order to get the boost.

[Withwnar]

I could be wrong about the "not" but if it does work then it should be "and not event_counter whatever 1". But then you may as well just say "and event_counter whatever 0".

The thing with event counters is that if the game can't figure out what it is you mean then it just silently gives up and thinks "this part of the condition is true". Sometimes, e.g. when you use an event counter with I_EventCounter but you have not yet set that counter to any value. Meaning that some things evaluate to true when they should be false (because it was scripted/coded wrong).

[TNZ]

recruit_pool "Yeoman Archers" 1 0.2 2 0 requires factions { barons_alliance, england, } and event_counter Archery_Law 1 and event_counter wales_destroyed_no 1 and not hidden_resource wales_kingdom

recruit_pool "Yeoman Archers" 1 0.3 2 0 requires factions { barons_alliance, england, } and event_counter Archery_Law 1 and event_counter wales_destroyed_yes 1 and hidden_resource wales_kingdom

;###### Yeoman Archers #######

add_events
	event	counter	wales_destroyed_no
	event	counter	wales_destroyed_yes
	date	0
end_add_events

set_event_counter wales_destroyed_no 1
set_event_counter wales_destroyed_yes 0

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
	and I_NumberOfSettlements wales = 0
	set_event_counter wales_destroyed_no 0
	set_event_counter wales_destroyed_yes 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

[Polycarpe]

Thank you TNZ, as usual, you're always the best! +rep