Music Bashing

Let's get this over with...I'm getting sick of people bashing ANY kind of music. If you don't like some music...it's ok with me...just don't go bashing people who like that kind of music. I, for instance don't love the Beatles (sry people ) but I don't go calling Beatles fans idiots for listening to their music.

I mean...bashing someone's music makes you look like some stupid 10 year old idiot...

Because metal is just screaming and molesting a guitarr, and rap is no music and is a needed to spell crap, and it takes no skill!!!111!!oneeleven! hihihihii

Seriously music bashing is redicilous.

I've learnt this myself, after a long time "bashing" rap, I've come to realise that it doesnt really matter what music you like, so long as you like it. Partly because I've realised that there is a great deal of overlap in certain types of music (well...I like some kinds of Alt. Rock, so various bands I listen to incorporate various techniques.

You don't like the Beatles?! Blasphemy!

Just kidding, and I agree, there's no point in making fun of music you dislike or are uneasy towards. Why can't we all Come Together? The message is simple, All You Need is Love! :laughing:

You can say something you don't like, but don't punch it in the face repeatedly.

Originally Posted by The Seleucid Empire

You don't like the Beatles?! Blasphemy!

haha I said I don't LOVE the Beatles...I can listen to their music...just not all day

Originally Posted by Fenris

but I still think I have the right to say [insert genre of music] is retarded.

if you don't like some genre you can still find some song you can listen to and like...

Originally Posted by HappeR

if you don't like some genre you can still find some song you can listen to and like...

There are always some exceptions. But they confirm the rule! :laughing:

But are all sounds safe under this umbrella of music? If not, then the judgement of what is music and what is sound may either be arbitrary or decisive, and certain not to satisfy all. Some might declare the gurgle of a stream or the dissonant bashing of pans by a two year old child to be music, and at least as many are sure to dismiss them. For if we were to grant every sound the title of 'music' then music will not be a title at all!

Is some music better? Perhaps.

Can some music be more pure, more heartfelt, deeper in intent, purpose, motivation, and creation? Certainly. Some music is true to that nature. Other music seems to be created solely as a product, commercialized, fabricated, and fully questionable as an expression of any real meaning. This may be challenged: The same question of what is art applies to other mediums such as photos, film, and text.

Concepts such as harmony, melody, tone, rhythm, etc, are also thought important to music, but examples exist that serve to contradict these ideas.

Enough of my tedious questions and pontificating. I present you a piece of text, a reflection on music, posted on another forum by someone you may or may not know. He in turn took it from one of his favourite bands, the Gogol Bordello:

There are many of us for whom music is an irreplaceable part of life… We rely on it to take us out of sadness, pressures of poverty, youth, age, etc… Mixed with alcohol it seems to be a remedy for just about anything… Be it a rapid fire of notes exploding in catharsis all over the major key or an obsessive marathon of soul-searching sounds crawling around minor… it all appears somehow more solid and present in our lives than materials… something we can always address and hold on too… At it’s best music connects us to a feeling as large as the whole goddamn universe itself… Of course, sometimes when sober, we can say, “Well, after all, it’s just music…” Yet everywhere you’ll go, in every culture, you’ll see it’s major royal presence… Some say with a straight up claim that music is the essence of life (for example: Wlodzimier Staniewski with his theatre group “Gardzienice”(“Musicality of Earth”, or see”Praktyki teatralne Wl. Staniewski”… Test, Lublin, 97, Poland)) I join in with them… Others see it more as an inhancing luxurious amusement-like activity. Sure, I’m down with that too, but one way or another, both positions advocate its primal positive powers… Often you will hear people talking about a concert they’ve experienced for years! Why? In Gypsy mythology they say it is memorable because the devil visited that room, others say the other guy was there… But one way or another they all link it to supernatural… Considering its power, it is not impossible to think of music making as a sacred art discipline… and, for example, in anthropological tribal studies the medicine man functions are not really differentiated from musicians… But let’s not get too anthropological on your ass… These are just elementary streamline reminders of music’s rocking good and what it could do. But instead, saturated with garbage, airways discredit this art and separate people from the power and meaning of music… Rivers of meaningless puke are poured into ours ears on daily basis and many forgot to even think about music as of a major source of energy, joy and inspiration… and ****ing heat too!.. As a matter of fact, it has been turned into something that steals our energy and replaces it with stress and discouraging examples of what making music leads to… All kinds of false notions of joyless, artificial, pseudo-mythology are now firmly attached to it... Celebrity lifestyle, VIP status, acting like an *******… all these notions seem to be inseparable from music making these days. Many fall for it just to be spat out with a raped and destroyed sense of self-worth… Kids start bands often motivated by fame alone… Of course, many great famous brothers, like Stravinsky or Josef Boyse, for example, succeeded in turning fame into a vehicle of positive energies and spreading great progressive ****… But it is perhaps, worth to mention that mechanics of modern fame have changed from its original oral tradition drive, which produced legends, anecdotes, good word, etc… Mechanics of modern fame are fueled by media and media alone and nobody in their ****ing right mind, of course, would start passing legends about, for example, The Strokes… or their twin sister Britney Spears… But getting back… it is as easy as one plus ****ing three… The more sources of inspiration you have, the better off you are… The happier you go through your day towards a more enjoyable night… the better you generally walk through the fire… and so on life-ward to the next drink(Russell’s “Strategies of Being”). But economics these days so strongly rule the arts and for obvious reasons favor English-speaking product, that it does not provide you with any info on actual real music at all… Even if you are a curious soul and ventured out to get something different, you very well end up with Buddha Bar or Putamya record products which promises you something exotic but basically are traps for yuppies who would like to fancy themselves cultured… That is basically like attending a belly dance class in Wyoming with the hopes to understand Muslims… Even if a good artist shows up on a compilation like that after a labels re-mastering his work comes across as nothing but an ass-licking background singing for Starbucks coffee shop. This situation also prolongs total ignorance and confusion… You’ll find millions of people not knowing if they support or oppose Globalization simply because they don’t know what it means… Or thanks to great products like Global Lounge compilation you will find people who celebrate Globalization… And you’ll think, “wow man, I never thought that new Colonialism can be such a great cause for a party… Favoring of White-English speaking product is often explained by patriotic or simply stupid arguments like, “people can really understand this song.” This is total ****ing ********. For every scientist will tell you that sound is the purest form of information. The language barrier in the context of music does not exist. And majority of power is contained in fingers of a player and in the tone of his/her voice. This is why the emotional message of music is so instant and human… That’s why the voice of Johnny Cash or Vladimir Visotsky goes unstoppably through anything to anyone… And meaning of music stands up in its full pride… Of course lyrical content of a song may take it much higher, but not knowing English never stopped millions around the world (including myself) from growing up on rock’n’roll… So if you don’t mind an extra fuel for your life you just may have to make music research your task, for information on good music is not provided, and not searching for it, is basically stealing from yourself… Fortunately, most of us live in places where information, if not provided, is still accessible without riding a horse for a week… In some most animalistic highs sometimes I dive with my ribs open out from the stage onto the table full of glasses and bottles… I’m pretty sure that if I would do it in silence, I would perhaps go straight to the hospital… With our music, and music that we popularize, we try to reach out and remind people that when taken out of the hands of a parasite, music is still a great lead into a democratic atmosphere of chaos where moments of great freedom and where great friends could be found… And that in the world of rapidly dissolving authentic cultures, soul-searching through the music is something that connects you with the most authentic thing there is—your savage heart… And so to answer many questions at once, here is a list of music that we recommend and keeps us company on our tour bus and everywhere else we go… Of course we can’t provide you with detailed information on where to get each and every album, for we are not a shop… but the albums recommended here are solid from the beginning to the end for the most part. It is a matter of individual feeling if you go completely nuts for it… Keep in mind also that many fantastic things are not mentioned simply because they are part of our previous or next tour bus collection… But if used wisely and with a good awareness of a sequence this collection alone can make you a best dj in your ****ing hemisphere… Stay Strong and ****ing Enjoy, Hütz Finished Aug 2003, Friday night, NY… all music is ****ing yours…

Deep apologies for the lack of formatting. It's an honest read.

I have no right telling that someone is stupid or [insert insult] to listen to listen to [insert genre of music], but I still think I have the right to say [insert genre of music] is retarded.