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    Default Losing all morale in one round of combat

    I have this inexplicable problem when playing as Makassa (a tiny, one province nation, that I started just to see how long I could survive, and also play around with a few things without the pressure of my experimentation causing me to lose the game)

    Anyway, Makassa and Majapahit have a ... thing. Every decade or so, Majapahit will declare war on Makassa, half of South-east asia will defend Makassa, and Majapahit will be forced to declare bankruptcy. This has repeated for the last 60 years.

    I recently found out (due to my naval skirmishes) that Majapahit has literally zero morale (due in part to repeated bankruptcy and stability problems). Therefore, I decided to send 1000 infantry vs. 1000 of their infantry. The battle started well... my troops had full morale, and they had about 10%. Leave them to win ... and then get the battle notification message "You lost".

    What? Maybe I missed something, so I reloaded (for learning purposes), and looked again. Sure enough, on the second to last round of combat, I deal some shock damage, and they deal shock damage to me, and .... my morale is zero. So is theirs. And I lose again. Reloading a third time (to make a save point about a week before the battle), and the same thing happens. I fight, I lose 100% of morale in one swoop, and ... win. I presume it is a 50/50 fight. But it shouldn't be!!

    If it helps, we are fighting on Bali-Lombok, which is a small island just north of Australia. It's 1455, and I have land tech 4, and I presume they have land tech 3 (bankruptcy is a , right?)

    Is this as designed? If so ... WHY IS IT DESIGNED THIS WAY!? And more importantly, can I do anything to take advantage of my foes complete inability to stand and fight?

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Consult the book of Poach! Chapters Musthavename... Page whatever. Thats my advice

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    silly question, but did you remember to bring your maintenance to max?

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Hold your mouse over your "morale-bar", and see what number it is. A full bar in comparison to an enemies nearly being empty can be misleading. It's only displaying the amount in relation to the unit's maximum. A full one could have a tenth of a nearly empty one, despite looking like more. And also make sure you have a general. Since you were playing as a small nation, I suggest, using your faction leader.

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Quote Originally Posted by nhytgbvfeco2 View Post
    silly question, but did you remember to bring your maintenance to max?
    It's generally this. You could ofcourse be bankrupt but as a player that's fairly unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musthavename View Post
    It's generally this. You could ofcourse be bankrupt but as a player that's fairly unlikely.
    unless you are ascarona.

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Quote Originally Posted by nhytgbvfeco2 View Post
    unless you are ascarona.
    Don't be silly. Asc can't go bankrupt - he's ragequit LONG before then.

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Quote Originally Posted by nhytgbvfeco2 View Post
    silly question, but did you remember to bring your maintenance to max?

    This. Nhy and others know that this is the very thing which caused my destruction a few times

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Poach isn't very good. Certainly can't compete with glorious France.

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Quote Originally Posted by 10greenbottles View Post
    Poach isn't very good. Certainly can't compete with glorious France.

    If he's not good I'd be scared of a good player.

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Thanks guys

    Unfortunately, that doesn't help. I haven't been playing long, so as a result I haven't touched the military maintenance bar. I've never been bankrupt, both sides don't have a general, and it is 2.765 morale to 0.1. Both sides are infantry too...

    However, that said, I may be looking in the wrong place. Using IN (not DE), so hovering over the morale bar does nothing. I used the little x's on the battle grid, and that said 2.765 morale, even when the bar was fully red. However, THAT said, the opponents morale went from 0.1 to 0, so I am probably looking in the right place.

    Even when I lose, and the bar is red, I still apparently have 2.76 morale ... so I don't know what is wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitCruncher View Post

    Even when I lose, and the bar is red, I still apparently have 2.76 morale ... so I don't know what is wrong...
    What happens to the morale of this army at the end of the month ..when not in battle?

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    Don't discuss other members, guys.

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    was it not lava?

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    Default Re: Losing all morale in one round of combat

    other possible things could be your nation being heavily focused on navy (slider wise).. never played without DW so i cant be sure how it goes there.

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