Scandinavian Faction

[The Norseman]

Hey i was wondering if there was a Norwegian or Swedish faction in EB.

[delra]

Nope. Closest to that area are Sweboz.

[Diamond]

Sweden didn't turn into a Kingdom until around the 1400s, Norway a bit earlier

[The Kybrothilian]

Sweden didn't turn into a Kingdom until around the 1400s, Norway a bit earlier

Then what was Sweden in the 12th, 13th and 14th cenutry?

[Spike]

Sweden didn't turn into a Kingdom until around the 1400s, Norway a bit earlier

SweBOZ is not SweDEN

ok Sweboz is name of Germanic tribe, in modern times it's more known as Swabian, not Sweden... hell, even in Viking times, at the peak of Scandinavian influence, it is Denmark and Norwegian who dominate the viking age, Sweden is backward place with little offensive raiding activities (and easy target for both Norge and Danmaurk) till early modern era

[The Kybrothilian]

SweBOZ is not SweDEN

did you read the OP's post?

Hey i was wondering if there was a Norwegian or Swedish faction in EB.

[David93]

SweBOZ is not SweDEN

ok Sweboz is name of Germanic tribe, in modern times it's more known as Swabian, not Sweden... hell, even in Viking times, at the peak of Scandinavian influence, it is Denmark and Norwegian who dominate the viking age, Sweden is backward place with little offensive raiding activities (and easy target for both Norge and Danmaurk) till early modern era

i feel you deserved to have it back

[Harðurāðaz]

Hey i was wondering if there was a Norwegian or Swedish faction in EB.

The North Germanic tribes at this time were not strong enough to be their own factions.

Sweden is backward place with little offensive raiding activities (and easy target for both Norge and Danmaurk) till early modern era

The Swedish Vikings and Gotlanders raided in Russia and the Baltics.

The Norwegians were split in small petty kingdoms.

The Swedes and the Danes got the most powerful kingdoms during the Vendel/Viking Age 500-1100 AD

[A_Dane]

While I agree Sweden weren't backwards, I'm pretty sure they powerwise were behind the Danes and Norwegians..

The Norwegians and Danes were both unified countries between the years of 872-936, while the kingdom of Sweden didn't come to be, with certainty that is, before 970. The Swedish didn't take a dominating role until after the start of the medieval age

[delra]

If they had a good expert on Swedish bronze and iron age, and if they were stubborn about it, they could add a tribe out there. Svealandians or whatever they were called. Question is if anyone really wants a faction slot to be spent on a remote area of the map and taken away from (arguably) more interesting factions somewhere closer to the middle which will see more action.

[A_Dane]

Doubt anyone will want that.. Even if there was a tribe strong enough to actually warrant a faction, I'm pretty sure information would be even more scarce than in the case of English tribes, and that one was nearly removed.. Also, as far as I know, the Cimbri and Teutones were the only north germanian tribes that really influenced the world, in the games timeframe ?

[Joar]

One can start to speak of a truly united Swedish kingdom in 12th century, but Sweden is, roughly speaking, a unification of primarily three Scandinavian peoples, ( Svear, Götar, Smålänningar ). The two most prominent being the Goths, or Geats, and the Swedes. Although the name of the kingdom is best known as "Sweden", its offical name, so to speak, is actually the Kingdom of the Swedes and Goths/Geats.

[Harðurāðaz]

From Wiki

There are two sources from the 1st century A.D that are quoted as referring to the Suiones. The first one is Pliny the Elder who said that the Romans had rounded the Cimbric peninsula (Jutland) where there was the Codanian Gulf (Kattegat?). In this gulf there were several large islands among which the most famous was Scatinavia (Scandinavia). He said that the size of the island was unknown but in a part of it dwelt a tribe named the Hillevionum gente, in 500 villages, and they considered their country to be a world of its own.

What strikes the commentators of this text is that this large tribe is unknown to posterity, unless it was a simple misspelling or misreading of Illa Svionum gente. This would make sense, since a large Scandinavian tribe named the Suiones was known to the Romans.

Tacitus wrote in AD 98 in Germania 44, 45 that the Suiones were a powerful tribe (distinguished not merely for their arms and men, but for their powerful fleets) with ships that had a prow in both ends (longships). Which kings (kuningaz) ruled these Suiones is unknown, but Norse mythology presents a long line of legendary and semi-legendary kings going back to the last centuries BC.

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I made this map of most important tribes in the area.

Red - Germanic
Black - Celto-Germanic

[A_Dane]

And? That's still rather scarce information + it's around 3-400 years after the start date s:

[Harðurāðaz]

And? That's still rather scarce information + it's around 3-400 years after the start date s:

These are one the oldest roman sources of the germanic tribes in Scandinavia.

[Makrell]

sorry but there is too few faction slots for that.

if you want scandinavian barbarians use wind of scandia(later era but still)

[A_Dane]

I try again: Sources from around the year 0, describing the period of that particular time, can't be used to base a faction upon, 300 years earlier than that...