Mercury fillings

[gaiusjulii]

My friend recently sent me the link to a video on you tube in regards to what dentists are using for filings and I have got to say its pretty frightening if its even half true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA

Please have a watch and comment, me for one I am amazed that this has not been made public before, Or maybe I am being naive about our media. Any way guys would like your comments on this video

[removeduser_487563287433]

My friend recently sent me the link to a video on you tube in regards to what dentists are using for filings and I have got to say its pretty frightening if its even half true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA

Please have a watch and comment, me for one I am amazed that this has not been made public before, Or maybe I am being naive about our media. Any way guys would like your comments on this video

Oh this is pretty famously an absurd conspiracy theory based on a child's understanding of science. The mercury scare comes up all the time, although I've not heard about it in fillings before, it usually emerges as a vaccine scare (and of course only harms people by lowering vaccine rates in a population). Mercury is included in a great number of products:

[removeduser_487563287433]

Actually turns out this is a bit heavier on the mercury and that countries are phasing it out on a basis of precaution.

[gaiusjulii]

I Remember as a kid the hospitals having glass mercury filled thermometers and when one broke how seriously they took to cleaning it up, if its so dangerous then having any amount in your body is dangerous.... after I thought it was a Heavy Metal. So why would the health departments of countries ok its use, it seems absurd to me

[Vizsla]

The UK is just being slow to give them the chop because of an NHS cost issue, like always.
I had a conversation with a dentist about this from a country where they were banned years ago and he was amazed and shocked we still get them.
It can’t hurt to talk to your dentist about what he’s putting in your mouth - fillings will be there for a while - talking hurts a lot less than drilling too.
Maybe it is better to save up the pennies and offer to pay to get white ones, as a precaution.

[Portuguese Rebel]

You guys still use that crap? In my country those are not used anymore. At least in the last 10 years... Dentists now use some sort of plastic mass.

[Simon Cashmere]

A doctor I know had a patient who was a real fatass (no not me) who decided to replace two of his 3 meals a day with tinned tuna. After a few months he had stuck to his diet, and lost a lot of weight. He came to the doctor and couldnt control his arms which were shaking all over the place, and it was like he was having a fit. He got rushed to hospital and had severe mercury poisoning. I said 'Did he live?' 'Yeah he's fine now, still a little tremor in his hand, but otherwise he is fine.' Just goes to show.

Dental amalgam is scary. There really is no safe exposure level to mercury. In this day and age, u'd think that some sort of resin would be a better choice.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vimy and Lorscheider derived an average absorbed mercury dose of 10 µg per day from amalgam fillings from their measurements of mouth air.
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Other groups have reported varying estimates. On the low end, Mackert
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and Berglund et. al.
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, by applying assumptions and inferences concerning how much mouth air is actually inhaled, arrived at average daily doses for subjects with twelve or more amalgam surfaces, of 1.83 and 1.7 µg, respectively (not zero). The question of inhaling mouth air should be moot, though, because elemental mercury vapor is lipophilic, and is absorbed easily through cell membranes and mucosal
barriers. On the high end, Patterson et. al.
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reported absorbed doses of as much as 27 µg per day. Skare and Engqvist,
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by metabolic methods, arrived at a figure of 12 µg per day for a group of subjects with an average of 47 amalgam surfaces.

27 µg per day. That's scary.

http://www.iaomt.org/articles/files/...%20Amalgam.pdf

[Jom]

Moved from the Mudpit to the Athenaeum.

[Portuguese Rebel]

u'd think that some sort of resin would be a better choice.

But there are already alternatives. And they are not more expensive... I don't know why these things keep being used in some countries!

[Ancient Aliens]

I wish there was something sufficiently cheaper for dental work, it's going to cost me a couple grand to have some very minimal procedures done...

[Portuguese Rebel]

I wish there was something sufficiently cheaper for dental work, it's going to cost me a couple grand to have some very minimal procedures done...

Cost of that isn't about the materials used. You're paying the dentist's work.

[Ancient Aliens]

Cost of that isn't about the materials used. You're paying the dentist's work.

Ok. Then we need some dentist robots ASAP.

[Portuguese Rebel]

Ok. Then we need some dentist robots ASAP.

Yeah, but imagine it malfunctioning....

Not always, if your on NHS in the uk it's free to you but the dentist has to justify it's usage of materials before receiving payment. I love the idea of the NHS but I am starting to wonder if it's always doing what's best for the patient or the budget

I believe AA is american, so no fancy NHS for him!

[Phier]

I believe AA is american, so no fancy NHS for him!

You can say what you want about the NHS and general medical issues, but one thing thats a given is that the NHS is a unmitigated disaster for dentistry.

[Ancient Aliens]

Yeah, but imagine it malfunctioning....

*Now entering Amy Winehouse mode; preparing the lazer*

I believe AA is american, so no fancy NHS for him!

Not yet anyways.

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

I wish there was something sufficiently cheaper for dental work, it's going to cost me a couple grand to have some very minimal procedures done...

Try toothpaste. Prevention is the best and cheapest treatment. Unless you tripped over or something like that. In which case something cheaper would be nice.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

plastic? Resin? Why can't we regenerate tooth enamel already?

[Phier]

No real study has ever shown a danger with amalgam fillings. They are being phased out because they are ugly, people are idiots, and politicians listen to idiots.

As for regenerating enamel, it can't happen due to how teeth form. Once the matrix is gone and the cells die that's it. The hope would be in regenerating teeth by formation of a new tooth. Problem is it would still take years to grow.

[Sphere]

There are many elements (especially metals) that in their elemental form are very dangerous. Potassium and sodium for example both would start on fire if they got inside you body, yet we eat them every day.

Mercury-silver amalgam is likewise harmless despite elemental mercury being highly toxic.

[LSJ]

The form of an element is important. People can eat some compounds containing mercury, but mercury oxide is very toxic. One TV doctor was advising people against certain foods because they contain significant amounts of arsenic. However the arsenic was an organic, safe form that posed no threat to health.