Natural resouce discussion

[RollingWave]

Ok, we've had some talks of it before but it was never conclusive, but since I'm about to really get down into the buildings we need to start getting this laid down more clearly, as resources obviously interact strongly with buildings.


A few things to know

A. The game limit for Resources type is 26

B. I would suggest that resources that could be mined would come first and formost in priority.

C. certain resources can be represented with hidden resources (though that means you can't trade them VIA merchants)


Off the top of my head, I would guess the generally commonly traded / mined resourcse would be (in a rough order or importance)

Gold
Silver
Copper
Coal
Iron
Salt
Horses
Tea
Silk
Procelin
Timber
Grains
Livestocks and related stuff like leather
Textile
Herbs
Jade

These are basically no doubters. though for Procelin and/or Textiles they may not neccesarily have to be resources but could be part of buildings.

Some other stuff to consider

Cotton
Fish
Marbles
Elephants / Ivory
Furs

So suggest / comment away.

[Yelü Dashi]

We discussed this back in this thread - comparing it to your list I would so that we agree on the first 21 resources, leaving us five left to choose from the list below.

1 Gold
2 Silver
3 Copper
4 Coal
5 Iron
6 Salt
7 Horses
8 Tea
9 Silk
10 Porcelin
11 Timber
12 Grains
13 Livestock
14 Textiles
15 Herbs
16 Jade
17 Cotton
18 Fish
20 Elephants / Ivory
21 Furs


Rice (same as Grains?)
Bamboo
Paper
Hemp
Camels
Slaves
Steel
Stone
Oranges
Wine
Saltpetre
Marble
Lacquerware
Sugarcane
Sulfur


My choice would probably be Camels, Stone, Paper, Sulfur, Sugarcane - but I might be wrong. Concerned that all the resources are Sinocentric - don't know enough about other regions to judge as yet.

[RollingWave]

We discussed this back in this thread - comparing it to your list I would so that we agree on the first 21 resources, leaving us five left to choose from the list below.

1 Gold
2 Silver
3 Copper
4 Coal
5 Iron
6 Salt
7 Horses
8 Tea
9 Silk
10 Porcelin
11 Timber
12 Grains
13 Livestock
14 Textiles
15 Herbs
16 Jade
17 Cotton
18 Fish
20 Elephants / Ivory
21 Furs


Rice (same as Grains?)
Bamboo
Paper
Hemp
Camels
Slaves
Steel
Stone
Oranges
Wine
Saltpetre
Marble
Lacquerware
Sugarcane
Sulfur


My choice would probably be Camels, Stone, Paper, Sulfur, Sugarcane - but I might be wrong. Concerned that all the resources are Sinocentric - don't know enough about other regions to judge as yet.

A few aspect that could be discussed...

A. Silver: Am I the only one that can't find much evidence of silver production during this period? most silver seem to have came through the silk road from the west? (as the world's primary production area was in Asia minor and central Europe back then)

B. Rice: yeah I'm more or less in favor of just grouping Rice and Wheat etc all into just grain to save some spot.

C. Steel / paper: these were more products of other resources then resource themself, though I guess you could make the same argument on textile, but textile have the advantage of being in many region a pseudo currency.

D. Slave : was there really a slave "trade" during this period? some faction had slaves more or less but I had thought most came from spoils of war or internal class by birth and not actual "trading" like it was done in the Mid East during this time.

E. we could loosely group stone and marble into the same catagory and bamboo / timber Lacquer / Ceremics / Porcelin , not totally realistic but for practical limitation purposes ....

So i would probably be infavor of Sugarcane / Stone / Sulfure / Wine / Fruits (Again to widen the definition of resource) / Camel

[Yelü Dashi]

Ok, I agree about the last five except I know for a fact that there were silver mines in the Shan Hills in Burma, also gemstones (rubies) were mined a lot, so these might be worth including ? Perhaps 'Precious metals' - gold/silver/gemstones ?

[RollingWave]

alrighty , I have a 3 day weekend comming up so should have time to lay down a lot of work. Resource shouldn't be a problem.. though I probably need to use placeholder for the graphics for now for most of them.