if you were president/ prime minister...

[Last Roman]

what would platform be? Foreign and domestic policies, gay marriage, abortion, universal healthcare or no?

here's mine:

Foreign Policy
more involvment through the UN, less direct involvment.

Domestic Policies

Gay Marriage
up to the states, encourage it to be legal

Abortion
up to the states, encourage it to be legal

Universal healthcare
I would encourage that all states create some sort of universal healthcare according to their needs and available resources, but I wouldn't create national healthcare

Taxes
flat tax rate of 18%

Immigration
-set up a immigration cap of 250,000 year.
-set up American Foreign Legion (thanks Farnan :wink: )

Military
cut some spending here and there, but for the most part, stay on the same track


so what would you do?

[Final Frontier]

Okay, I won't.

Foreign Policy
More direct involvement.

Domestic Policies
Gay Marriage
I'll let the states figure it out, but I'll discourage it.

Abortion
I'll let the states figure it out, but I'll discourage it.

Universal healthcare
Each state has individual programs with some support from the government.

Taxes
Somewhere between 10-20% is what I'm thinking.

Immigration
Limit the amount of people per year, keep borders secure.

Military
Standing army, obviously. I wouldn't make it compulsory to join, but I'd add some benefits for joining it. In terms of spending, I think I'll keep a constant rather than fluctuate spending [and anger the people].

[Sétanta]

If I were President of the United States...

Foreign Policy
I would take a hard stance against world problems. Fighting Terrorism, hunger and Disease at the source. Pressuring the UN to help but doing it without them if needs be.

Domestic Policies
Gay Marriage
Illegal nationwide but permittance of National "Civil Unions"

Abortion
Illegal unless in the case of Rape, Teen Pregnacy or other injury to the mother.

Universal healthcare
Up to the States

Taxes
NO NEW TAXES!

Immigration
Designated Ports of entry for LEGAL immigrants who are in regular contact with the Immigrant Authority Administration who regulates immigrants. You can stay if you can provide an income for yourself. Day Labourers are gone

Military
The USA needs to keep its primacy as a superpower militarily too. I won't increase spending unless it is necessary

Iraq, Iran and North Korea
I will pull out as soon as the Iraqi's prove they can handle themselves.
Iran will respect the wishes of the UN and the US or they will find themselves in a tight place
Likewise for North Korea.

[Hub'ite]

Foreign Policy
Urge the UN to actually do something. Ignore them if need be.

Domestic Policies
Uhh protect our County, I guess.

Gay Marriage
up to the states, discourage it.

Abortion
Illegal. Only case would be rape or fatal to mother

Universal healthcare
Up to states.

Taxes
Taxes seem fine to me.

Immigration
Shut down the border, and limit amount of immigrants each year.

Military
We have the best in the world why change it?

[Yorkshireman]

Prime Minister. Great Britain.

Foriegn Policy

Proactive - respond with military force when neccesary
Retain close military links with USA our natural allies as opposed to European Army/foriegn policy.
Withdrawal in steps from Iraq as situation allows.
Withdrawal from Afghanistan - let them get on with - no win siuation.
Restoration of soveriegn laws surrenderd to European Union.
Powers taken from European court of Human rights to overule British law.
Reduction of huge foriegn aid budget.


Domestic Policy

Removal of wasteful/useless govt created civil service posts. End the gravy train.
Increase in recruitment of real nurses and police officers as oppossed to "ward assisstants" and "community support officers"
Return to more traditional, disciplined form of education.
Civil union, abortion - remain as present.

Immigration

Tighter border controls to reduce the flow of illigal immigration.
Fastrack deportation for Illigal immigrants and failed asylum seekers.
Suspension of failed asylum seekers legal aid to fight decisions of British courts.
Secure centres for all entrants until leave to remain is granted.

Defence/Military

Sack half the pen pushing civil servants at the MOD.
Halt the amalgamation of British Army regiments currently underway. Keep our famous infantry Battalions.
Increase spending for the airforce, especially in the area of attack helicopters. ie buy more Apaches
Increase spending on the Royal Navy to ensure 3 full size battlegroups with air arm.
Rapid deployment is the future.
Retain strong military ties/cooperation with US as opposed to Europe.

[Carach]

Prime Minister. Great Britain.

Foriegn Policy

Proactive - respond with military force when neccesary
Stop allowing america to screw around with us when we are supposed to be allies, and take less crap from the euros. (its pretty general but meh ..)
Withdrawal in steps from Iraq as situation allows (already being done) - Not a full pullout because the general public demand so...lol.
Withdrawal in steps from Afghanistan - will be on that soon as the afghan army and police forces are doing a good job and are increasing every day.
Restoration of soveriegn laws surrenderd to European Union.
Powers taken from European court of Human rights to overule British law.
Reduction of huge foriegn aid budget.


Domestic Policy

Removal of wasteful/useless govt created civil service posts.
Increase in recruitment of real nurses and police officers as oppossed to "ward assisstants" and "community support officers"
Return to more traditional, disciplined form of education - proper punishment in schools brought back.
Civil union, abortion - remain as present.

Immigration

Only the skilled should be allowed in. NO OTHERS.

Defence/Military

Sack half the pen pushing civil servants at the MOD.
Halt the amalgamation of British Army regiments currently underway. Keep our famous infantry Battalions.
Increase spending across the board, and make this money more 'efficient' (ie: not disapearing through stupid/useless schemes)
The armed forces must be able to fight anywhere, at full capability - anything less is a disgrace to the nation's heritage.
Put people in charge in the government that actually know something about the armed forces? instead of idiot politicians selling the military down the river?

overall, a 'national revival'

a lot of the above was just pasted out from yorkshire's i agree with him on most things.

[Yorkshireman]

Prime Minister. Great Britain.

Foriegn Policy

Proactive - respond with military force when neccesary
Stop allowing america to screw around with us when we are supposed to be allies, and take less crap from the euros. (its pretty general but meh ..)
Withdrawal in steps from Iraq as situation allows (already being done) - Not a full pullout because the general public demand so...lol.
Withdrawal in steps from Afghanistan - will be on that soon as the afghan army and police forces are doing a good job and are increasing every day.
Restoration of soveriegn laws surrenderd to European Union.
Powers taken from European court of Human rights to overule British law.
Reduction of huge foriegn aid budget.


Domestic Policy

Removal of wasteful/useless govt created civil service posts.
Increase in recruitment of real nurses and police officers as oppossed to "ward assisstants" and "community support officers"
Return to more traditional, disciplined form of education - proper punishment in schools brought back.
Civil union, abortion - remain as present.

Immigration

Only the skilled should be allowed in. NO OTHERS.

Defence/Military

Sack half the pen pushing civil servants at the MOD.
Halt the amalgamation of British Army regiments currently underway. Keep our famous infantry Battalions.
Increase spending across the board, and make this money more 'efficient' (ie: not disapearing through stupid/useless schemes)
The armed forces must be able to fight anywhere, at full capability - anything less is a disgrace to the nation's heritage.
Put people in charge in the government that actually know something about the armed forces? instead of idiot politicians selling the military down the river?

overall, a 'national revival'

a lot of the above was just pasted out from yorkshire's i agree with him on most things.

Well said sir ! One of us can run for PM, one as deputy !

[Last Roman]

add another thing to mine:

GET RID OF DEBT!

you would not see deficit spending under my administration

[Freddie]

I would move government from a centre left to centre right standing.

[IamthePope]

Establish a theocratic state with a Constitutional Monarch. Monarch's successor would be appointed by current Monarch and approved by the Senate. Upon succesion the new Monarch would be crown Holy American Emperor by the Pope or Arch bishop of Washington if the Pontiff is unavailable.

New constitution based on the teachings of the Church. Laws that conflict with the teachings of the church would be reviewed by a supreme court style body in Rome and nullified.

Monarch would have less power than current president, but would still remain the dominant force in government. Monarch could be forced to abdicate in favor of a Senatorial Chosen successor if there is a 2/3's vote for it in the Senate and the House.

Catholicism would be the official state religion. Non-catholic places of worship would be re-consecrated as Catholic shrines. Protestants could worship their faith in their own way but they would become part of the Church in the way that Eastern sects have been assimilated. Ad campaign to promote the new state religion would begin. Non-Catholics would be taxed and be at a disadvantage in the political arena.

Foriegn Policy: Humanitarian and missionary goals would take precedent. America would work to spread democracy, and Catholicism throughout the world. would work to form global coalitions to oppose tyranny and terrorism throughout the world. Similar to current administrations foriegn policy.

Military: Military spending would be slightly cut as the military refocused and re-organized in a fashion consistent with the ideas of information centric warfare. Reduced manpower but greater emphasis on training and social conditioning. Research and development would be given priority. Un-used weapons and vehicals would be mothballed for possible futuer deployment.

Economy: maintain current ecomonic policies with few alterations. make the reduction of the Federal dept a priority. work to reform or possibly end social security. cut taxes whenever it is reasonable to do but do not hessitate to raise taxes when it can generate substantial and necassary funds for essential programs.

Immigration: impose a small fine on all illegal immigrants. make legal immigration simpler and quicker. build a wall along the border with ports of entry for trade and movement of legal workers. allow for a guest worker program with possiblility for future citizenship for workers who have worked 10 years.

Abortion: Abortion would be considered capital murder unless church and government approval is given. Both the mother(if she was a willing participant) and the doctor would be imprisoned. Church orphages would be set up to house and educate unwanted children.

Marriage: Marriage would be restricted to a man and a woman. Divorse would require the approval of the Church and would be quite difficult. Homosexuality would be considered a perversion of human sexuality and would be considered taboo. Gay marriage as a result would be out of the question.

[imb39]

what would platform be? Foreign and domestic policies, gay marriage, abortion, universal healthcare or no?

Foreign Policy
Continue present policy essentially. I cannot see too many alternatives. I'd try to appear, at least, not to be too supportive of the American agenda (probably unfair...). I'd also work hard to isolate the French in Europe over issues such as CAP etc.

Domestic Policies

Gay Marriage
Our current sey up seems perfectly OK. No change on that score.

Abortion
I'd tighten it up. I think some abortions are possibly happening too late and medical advances, make some of those possibly viable. Very difficult one to manage.

Universal healthcare
I would encourage that all states create some sort of universal healthcare according to their needs and available resources, but I wouldn't create national healthcare

Taxes
Well, currently our taxes are probably too high. We need to be much more careful about spending it.

Immigration
I think it is in fact a less serious problem than it seems, there again, I come from a multicultural part of Britain, London. Even then a part in which the 'white' part is probably less than 50% now. I don't care. They are still British in my book.

Military
Keep at current levels.

Welfare
I'd hack at the Welfare State. Not the NHS but the rest of it. The reforms, though, would take many years to take an effect, to impose vast changes now would be unfair and impossible. I would for example:
1) Limit child support, eventually, to support only two children per family.
2) Limit unemployment benefit so that it gradually peters out per person, ie - when you are initially unemployed you get the full benefit, after a few months it cuts backand and so on.
3) Impose similar limits on Income Support, but much less stringent/drastic.
4) Divert money to increase thresholds rather than lower the basic rate of tax.
5) Deal with tax loopholes as much as possible.

[Last Roman]

here's mine:

Foreign Policy
more involvment through the UN, less direct involvment.

Domestic Policies

Gay Marriage
up to the states, encourage it to be legal

Abortion
up to the states, encourage it to be legal up to a point (no 3rd trimester abortions)

Universal healthcare
I would encourage that all states create some sort of universal healthcare according to their needs and available resources, but I wouldn't create national healthcare

Taxes
flat tax rate of 18%

Immigration
-set up a immigration cap of 250,000 year.
-set up American Foreign Legion (thanks Farnan :wink: )

Military
cut some spending here and there, but for the most part, stay on the same track. Keep it the strongest military in the world

forgot some stuff

Welfare
keep welfare, but only after some major reforms

Education
create a national standard, because the way we have it now isn't working

[Farnan]

Here is a political platform I came up with on my own.

Foreign Policy:

1. Will support fledging democracies with low or no interest loans or military assisstance in the form of advisors if requested.

2. Will finicially and politically support peaceful pro-democratic parties in non-democratic nations.

3. Will finicially and politically support non-peaceful pro-democratic parties in nations where the non-democratic government is deemed moderately - highly tyrannical as long as the pro-democratic parties do not engage in targeting civilians.

4. Will militarily support non-peaceful pro-democratic parties that do not target civilians if the situation is considered extremely-highly tyrannical (a nation with civil rights equal to or less than Nazi Germany, Maoist China, or Stalin's Soviet Union), if possible (Geo-political situations will be considered, such as the case with North Korea that has a nuke, and artillery targeted at Seoul).

5. Will work to reform the UN and work with them when possible.

6. Will try to strengthen NATO bonds.

7. Will work to convince China to liberalize its government.

8. Will use extreme political pressure and the threat/use of military force to prevent genocides such as Rwanda, Darfur, and the Holocaust.

9. Will use surplus grain bought from farmers after ending the Agriculture Adjustment Act (see below) as foreign aid to nations with food shortages.

10. Will rebuild SEATO (Southeast Asia Treaty Organisation).

Defense

1. Will move towards an efficent military based on force projection and not Cold War tactics.

2. Will keep defense spending around the same amount unless situations dictate an increase.

3. Will send efficency experts to the DOD who will look for and try to cut frivial spending, though they will not be allowed to make any decisions related to equipment used by frontline soldiers, or transportation equipment. The SOD can veto any suggestions, though the president can overrule that veto.

Illegal Immigration

1. One of the most controversial ideas I have: form an American Foreign Legion. Any caught illegal immigrants have the choice of joining the AFL and earning US citizenship after 7 years of serving or be sent home. The AFL will pay around the same amount as the regular army.

2. Use the National Guard to increase border security.

Welfare

1. Increase funding to Job Training schools, and demand those on Welfare attend such schools.

2. Move funds not used for Job Training schools, to private charities where they would use the money to help the poor. There will be some federal oversite over these private charities to make sure the funds are spent right.

Agriculture

1. End the Agriculture Adjustment Act

Education

1. End classical standardised training and replace it with pre and post tests, the pretest in 9th grade, and the post in 12th grade. The school will be judged based upon the improvent of the students.

Illegal Drugs

1. Compare research and if it proves that Marijuana is equal to or less dangerous than tobacco, legalise it and use the money gained to fund fights against harder drugs.

Civil Rights

1. Will pressure universities and colleges that accept Federal funds to end Affirmative Action based on race, instead base it upon economic situation of applicant.

2. Will support Gay and Lesbian Civil Unions with the same rights as marriage, just not the name (compromise position in a way, Gays and Lesbians get the ability to do everything a married couple can, but not the name so the "sancitity of marriage" is preserved (not like the rampant divorce has already destroyed it ) .)

[imb39]

Will support Gay and Lesbian Civil Unions with the same rights as marriage, just not the name (compromise position in a way, Gays and Lesbians get the ability to do everything a married couple can, but not the name so the "sancitity of marriage" is preserved (not like the rampant divorce has already destroyed it ) .)

That's what we've done here. Though it is generally called gay marriage now. No surprises. The idiots in the gay and lesbian movement in America should never have pushed that for it.

[Last Roman]

Farnan brings up something else I forgot

drugs
legalize marijuana

corporate regulation
call it redtape if you want, I don't trust corporations and never will. strict corporate regulations

One of the most controversial ideas I have: form an American Foreign Legion. Any caught illegal immigrants have the choice of joining the AFL and earning US citizenship after 7 years of serving or be sent home. The AFL will pay around the same amount as the regular army.

didn't you see? I stole it from you

[RusskiSoldat]

If you were president, you'd do about 0% of that if it wasn't popular with something close to a majority.
Just to give you a heads up.
In fact, you wouldn't enact any of those laws because the cheif executives of US and UK have so little power.

[Yorkshireman]

If you were president, you'd do about 0% of that if it wasn't popular with something close to a majority.
Just to give you a heads up.
In fact, you wouldn't enact any of those laws because the cheif executives of US and UK have so little power.

Well you certainly took the wind out of our sails !

[Last Roman]

If you were president, you'd do about 0% of that if it wasn't popular with something close to a majority.
Just to give you a heads up.
In fact, you wouldn't enact any of those laws because the cheif executives of US and UK have so little power.

ok fine, things I would push for. And some of those things would be under my control.

[Ahiga]

So change the topic to if you were dictator or emperor. :wink:

[Farnan]

So change the topic to if you were dictator or emperor. :wink:

In that case...

Start Democratic elections, then resign immediately after the new government is set up (unless I am elected).