Why Won't Hamas Co-Operate With Israel?

[Rome101]

The situation is this:
Hamas holds claim to governorship over the Gaza Strip;
Rockets are fired from the Strip by some militant organization;
Israel holds Hamas responsible for every rocket that goes off from its territory;
Hamas refuses to take responsibility for rockets flying out of its territory;
Israel counterstrike for most of the rockets;
Hamas mad at Israel for counterstriking;
World is mad at Israel for counterstriking.

So why won't Hamas cooperate with Israel and instead of just expecting it to do jack in the face of continuous rocket fire, simply tell her who fired the rockets so Israel can punish the right guy?

I don't mean they should be allies or anything, but since Hamas claims to rule the crib, and people are firing out of the crib, the least it can do is tell the police who busted shots.
If it can't keep its dogs on a leash, at least let the doggy-sitter do it. You know what they say, "if you don't help to stop a crime, you're an accomplice".

[Dr. Croccer]

Because the entire basis of Hamas is opposition to Israel. The main reason they've got such support from the Palestinians is because they've presented themselves as the heroic defenders of their people against evil Israel. Peace with Israel would make them largely obsolete, if not even make them be seen as traitors. Even if they wanted to do so (and many in it probably do), they would lose massive support. If they did strike a peacedeal with Israel, it's very likely dissenters or some other militant group would reject it and attack Israel, and Hamas would be held responsible.

The problem is that both sides can't and won't back down from confrontation. If a rocket hits Israel, Hamas cannot give Israel concessions without fear of losing support nor can Israel in retaliating.

[Rome101]

Heroic? They use human shields and hide rockets in people's closets and under their beds for crying out loud.

I'm not talking about peace nor renunciation of the violent ideology they treasure so much. I'm simply proposing, that they tell their troops to cease fire, and help Israel identify whoever breaches the order. It won't make them traitors because they still allow full auto on Israel when it's time to do so. But as long as being bombed by the IAF is not in their best interest, they can warn other factions that betraying their leadership will lead to them being "thrown to the dogs".
If anything, it will only strengthen their rule.

[Dr. Croccer]

Heroic? They use human shields and hide rockets in people's closets and under their beds for crying out loud.

Sarcasm...

I'm not talking about peace nor renunciation of the violent ideology they treasure so much. I'm simply proposing, that they tell their troops to cease fire

Which, again, is irrelevant. They probably won't be able to control their own, let alone the various other militant groups which will continue the fight and most likely gather support.

and help Israel identify whoever breaches the order. It won't make them traitors because they still allow full auto on Israel when it's time to do so.

...? Not sure what you mean by that.

But as long as being bombed by the IAF is not in their best interest, they can warn other factions that betraying their leadership will lead to them being "thrown to the dogs".

So basically have them extort the other Palestinian militants who want to continue fighting with the threat of Israeli force.

How will they not look like traitors to their cause, again?

If anything, it will only strengthen their rule.

I doubt it, and evidently they do as well. The point is, they cannot accept any terms with Israel publically that don't include quite significant Israeli concessions. Any settlement that seems too small will annoy many Palestinians.

[Blaze86420]

Because co-operation with Israel is useless.

[saglam2000]

Hamas security forces do in fact try to stop the random groups from shooting into Israel when they are at a ceasefire, it's a pretty tough task for an organization who's basically under siege financially.

[Menelik_I]

What amuse me with the ''Hamas tries hard to prevent rockets being shoot into Israel'' is that you would need only 2 brain cells to figure out that Hamas could be doing a ISI Show : Keep terrorists group more or less under pressure and unless them periodically to attack Israel while at the same time denying responsibility.

2 brain cells ... the rarest gift in human history.

[Guy]

Because the entire basis of Hamas is opposition to Israel.

Because co-operation with Israel is useless.

That's basically the rhetoric of the entire thread.

What amuse me with the ''Hamas tries hard to prevent rockets being shoot into Israel'' is that you would need only 2 brain cells to figure out that Hamas could be doing a ISI Show : Keep terrorists group more or less under pressure and unless them periodically to attack Israel while at the same time denying responsibility.

2 brain cells ... the rarest gift in human history.

Judging by your avatar and signature, I'd agree that there certainly is a lack of braincells, there whereabouts, however, are much closer to home than you might think.

[Menelik_I]

Judging by your avatar and signature, I'd agree that there IS certainly is a lack of braincells, there whereabouts, however, are much closer to home than you might think.

Fixed.

I reserve that honor for those who champion the brainless ideas of Karl Marx despite all evidence of failure.

[Guy]

Fixed.

I reserve that honor for those who champion the brainless ideas of Karl Marx despite all evidence of failure.

I am not a Marxist nor do I follow the doctrine of Karl Marx.

Back on topic now...

[panzer 4]

Fixed.

I reserve that honor for those who champion the brainless ideas of Karl Marx despite all evidence of failure.

like the real Israeli State, only put in, what you want the people to know

[Rome101]

That's like saying that Japanese fishermen are having troubles building sand castles because Greece is in financial distress.
Same amount of logic in both sentences.

[PointOfViewGun]

How do you expect them to cooperate with a power that shown to be not trustworthy? We've gone through this over an over again. Why would you make a thread on it?

[Ancient Aliens]

For the same reason why the Black Panthers don't want to cooperate with white America: it's not in their financial or political interest to do so. They benefit by keeping down the people they claim to be protecting.

[Their Law]

One could ask why Israel refuses to cooperate with Hamas. It takes two to tango.

[Le Songeur]

One could ask why Israel refuses to cooperate with Hamas. It takes two to tango.

They don't find it useful to cooperate with a terrorist organization committed to their annihilation.

[Their Law]

They don't find it useful to cooperate with a terrorist organization committed to their annihilation.

And Israel is committed to their destruction, so why should they negotiate with Israel?

[Oldgamer]

And Israel is committed to their destruction, so why should they negotiate with Israel?

If Israel was committed to the destruction of Hamas, they would simply destroy it. However, that would kill the people in Gaza who are not members of or associated with Hamas. Obviously, Hamas doesn't reciprocate, as they attempt change the behavior of the Israeli government by killing people in southern Israel.

Think. Is there anything stopping Israel from destroying Hamas entirely except for their commitment to keep collateral damage to a minimum? Could Israel blacken Gaza from end-to-end?

@Lonck
Reality on the ground is a difficult concept, isn't it?

[xcorps]

And Israel is committed to their destruction, so why should they negotiate with Israel?

Are there any quotes from the founding documents of the Israeli government to support your rhetoric?

[Condottiere 40K]

Are there any quotes from the founding documents of the Israeli government to support your rhetoric?

Give it time, theProtocols of the Elders of Zion hasn't been updated yet.