Create good not evil

[Nutsack]

Sometimes I wish that we all would be spared from all the evil and unjusticies of this world, but then I am quickly reminded that there would be no good without evil. So we seem to exist in this universe where evil and good are in constant conflict, seems to me like they don't exist without life. Without life, how can you say that there is good or evil? Because a dead matter universe does not contain either.

So right now I am in a belief that the only creator of this universe, is the universe itself. So what you might say is God, I say is you and me, the trees around us, bacteria and atomic particles, energy, space and time. So whenever life was born, so was the conflict between good and evil - and it is therefore our duty as God to create good and to lessen all evils.

The evil is coming at us, every one of us right now. You will all be exposed to evil, maybe you are right now. I hope you all attempt to make good of every situation you are faced with, and whenever you are witness to sorrow or suffering you will give a helping hand to your fellow creation for the sake of good.

The balance of good/evil in this world is never 50/50, you are in direct responsibility for tipping the favour towards good. I admit that many of our actions indirectly support evil acts, such as eating fish results in emptying the oceans, as well as driving automobiles destroys the environment. Whatever evil you have to do, do it but be aware of your actions, and whatever energy you have to spare make it good. I went to court today, against a man who might be serving a years sentence - I consider this to be both good and evil. Evil as in it is not in this mans intention to create evil and therefore serve punishment - I forgive him for he knows not what he does. I hope to be creating good in that now I have aided in the return of stolen goods and the freedom of another man who was under threat and extortion. I did all this with the consequence being a complete relocation of my life to another city, another family and another life, having to abandon all of those people I knew. Feels like a huge sacrifice for me.

I don't know what thepoint of this thread even is any more sorry guys i gues i need to vent

[Helm]

Sometimes I wish that we all would be spared from all the evil and unjusticies of this world, but then I am quickly reminded that there would be no good without evil.

What is light without dark?

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I think it's really just a combination of people doing stuffand the fact that anything that can go wrong will go wrong. It gets a bit trickier when you try to define what "good" actually is.

[Blaze86420]

Evil is the greed which drives us to take what is not ours. Evil is the hatred which leads us to conflict and violence. Evil is jealousy and envy which can result in either of the former or both. God has given us free will, the ability to choose and act on our own, the ability to create good or evil. What most people percieve as evil is usually very extreme: sadism, racism, sexism, irrationality etc. But evil doesn't always have to take such a pronounced form; the devil is a sly creature, he will lead you to temptation where ever you walk and during any of your daily activities. You don't have to go out and kill or rape someone to do evil, the devil will lay out stairs for you and will only take a couple of steps before you spiral down into the nether, both metaphorically and literally.

EDIT: I should be a philosopher or something lol.

[basics]

" God has give us free will,......"

Blaze86420,

Perhaps you can give me book, chapter and verses where it says in the word of God that He has given us free-will? The fundamental principle of the garden of Eden and from then on is that man doesn't have free-will so where does everyone get this false impression from?

For a start Adam and Eve didn't know evil, their distinction was that they believe God and do what He required of them. Eve was persuaded in ignorance that God didn't mean what He said and so she took the word of the serpent as being with the approval of God. The consequences were that having eaten the fruit alongside Adam, evil became evident where before it wasn't.

The results were that they and their offspring were handed over to the curse of sin and the power of Satan thus separated from God. That they may well have willed to get back to God is possible but any chance of that was blocked by the Cherubim that guarded the entrance to the garden so we see from that that literally they had no choices in the matter.

Indeed in the book to the Romans, Paul goes out of his way to elaborate where mankind had fallen to and explains that whatever man thought of himself, his will could never return him to the side of God until the power that held him was defeated. Unless he had the ability to overcome sin and the power of Satan, there was nothing that he, man, could do. That my friend is the position of every unregenerate on the planet, before, now and future.

Of course mankind whiles away his time doing what he has to do, never giving his position a thought, thinking in free-will that any choices that are necessary, he can do in the time he wants to do it. Under the powers that restrain him, they are quite happy to see him believe that. After all they cannot see them, but as sure as hell they can feel them, these are put down to the nature of life.

[Vizsla]

Perhaps you can give me book, chapter and verses where it says in the word of God that He has given us free-will? The fundamental principle of the garden of Eden and from then on is that man doesn't have free-will so where does everyone get this false impression from?

If man does not have freewill then it must be predetermined who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Only The Elect are going to heaven.
If this is the case then why bother trying to convert us lowly untermensch unbelievers because obviously we were destined to spend eternity in hell before we were even born?

[basics]

" If man does not have freewill then it must be predetermined who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Only The Elect are going to heaven. If this is the case then why bother trying to convert us lowly untermensch unbelievers because obviously we were destined to spend eternity in hell before we were even born? "

Colonel Blimp,

It is indeed only the elect who are going to heaven but simply put we do not know who they are, it being ordained in heaven before the worlds were made, therefore by the Gospel which is the power of God to bring that about, all of us begin at the same point of falling short of the glory of God, it is our interest in that that will trigger regeneration. So, no, none of us must look at things the way you suggest unless you are content to go to hell.

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

Perhaps you can give me book, chapter and verses where it says in the word of God that He has given us free-will? The fundamental principle of the garden of Eden and from then on is that man doesn't have free-will so where does everyone get this false impression from?

Then I guess there's no pathetic excuse as to why the problem of evil is incorrect.

[Blaze86420]

@basics:

Are you under the impression that I am a Christian? I'm not, nor am I well-versed in Christian theology. In the Quran however, and concepts of free will and predestination are not discussed much and was actually a subject of much debate between different Islamic thinkers throughout history. The Sunni take on this topic, or at least the majority of Sunnis believe, that there exists some sort of duality between jabr and qadr (divine will and free will). God created the possiblity for human free will using his Divine will, allowing humans to do right or wrong and be accountable for their actions. God is also all knowing, nothing is hidden from him including both your intentions and actions. Claiming that we lack free will doesn't make sense to me while I choose to type this response to you.

[hollowfaith]

If more people would watch and listen to this video. His words ring so very true. I beg for you to please watch this video all the way through, and I hope it will change many peoples hearts.

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

In that case, heaven isn't so great because there is no evil in it, and hell isn't so bad because there is no good in it.

[Dominicvs]

Thats what I thought of

[Vizsla]

Good and bad are human relative concepts. Most of the rest of the universe is inanimate and therefore morals do not apply to it. Most of the rest of the animate universe is too stupid to conceive of concepts like good and bad. The few parts that can have radically different takes on what is good and what is bad. Bonobo chimps view fornication much like we view handshakes.
So given that we’re a minuscule part of the matter in the universe it seems presumptuous to insist that everything conforms to our particular behavioural prejudices. Apart from anything else we’ve been around for a few 10s of thousands of years and we still haven’t agreed on a universal definition of what constitutes good and bad just between ourselves.

[Taiji]

Good is evil and vice versa, except in fantasy fiction.

[Miracles]

Sometimes I wish that we all would be spared from all the evil and unjusticies of this world, but then I am quickly reminded that there would be no good without evil. So we seem to exist in this universe where evil and good are in constant conflict, seems to me like they don't exist without life. Without life, how can you say that there is good or evil? Because a dead matter universe does not contain either.

So right now I am in a belief that the only creator of this universe, is the universe itself. So what you might say is God, I say is you and me, the trees around us, bacteria and atomic particles, energy, space and time. So whenever life was born, so was the conflict between good and evil - and it is therefore our duty as God to create good and to lessen all evils.

The evil is coming at us, every one of us right now. You will all be exposed to evil, maybe you are right now. I hope you all attempt to make good of every situation you are faced with, and whenever you are witness to sorrow or suffering you will give a helping hand to your fellow creation for the sake of good.

The balance of good/evil in this world is never 50/50, you are in direct responsibility for tipping the favour towards good. I admit that many of our actions indirectly support evil acts, such as eating fish results in emptying the oceans, as well as driving automobiles destroys the environment. Whatever evil you have to do, do it but be aware of your actions, and whatever energy you have to spare make it good. I went to court today, against a man who might be serving a years sentence - I consider this to be both good and evil. Evil as in it is not in this mans intention to create evil and therefore serve punishment - I forgive him for he knows not what he does. I hope to be creating good in that now I have aided in the return of stolen goods and the freedom of another man who was under threat and extortion. I did all this with the consequence being a complete relocation of my life to another city, another family and another life, having to abandon all of those people I knew. Feels like a huge sacrifice for me.

I don't know what thepoint of this thread even is any more sorry guys i gues i need to vent

I DISAGREE!

Would white cease to exist when black vanishes?

Mankind are aware of goodness not because it has known evil. Rather mankind recognize goodness out of his ability to show and feel gratitude and able to do good out of his empathy.

Goodness exists outside evil and evil exists outside good. When one disappears it doesn't make the other to disappear as well.

Would hardwork cease to exist when laziness vanishes?
Would laughter cease to be appreciated when cries are gone?
Would happiness lose its potency when sorrow is no more?

The matter of good and evil is a matter of desires. Desires create good or evil. Desires come from the heart. So good and evil is a matter of the heart the thing that is the source of all our desires even the trivial ones.

[Vizsla]

I DISAGREE!

Would white cease to exist when black vanishes?

Goodness exists outside evil and evil exists outside good. When one disappears it doesn't make the other to disappear as well.

It’s exceedingly rare to find objects that are absolutely white or absolutely black. Your brain alters the perceived wavelengths your eyes detected so that things look less confusing.
It’s the same thing with the metaphorical kinds of black and white as well.

White is a mixture of colours of the visible spectrum.
Black is the total absence of light.
How could black possibly vanish? An absence of a thing is not in itself a thing. A hole is not a physical object.

The definition of polar opposites only makes sense if both poles exist, without ‘Left’ ‘Right’ has no meaning.
Evil is not being good. Good is not being evil. If there was no definition of goodness then nothing could be classed as evil, if there was no definition of evil then nothing could be classed as good.

[Himster]

White would be unkowable if black vanished, any assertions regarding it's existenece would be futile.

Good and evil are not black and white however.

[Miracles]

White would be unkowable if black vanished, any assertions regarding it's existenece would be futile.

Good and evil are not black and white however.

Nah white would still exist had black was unknown.

Good and evil are indeed not colors but they do exist independently from one another.

Good and evil are the only true two natural ideologies.

If you want to make comparison with political ideologies then I say Capitalism exists independently from Communism and vice versa.

[Himster]

Nah white would still exist had black was unknown.

Black wouldn't exist, white exists: both would be unknown.

Good and evil are indeed not colors but they do exist independently from one another.

Black and white aren't colours either, they are decidedly the lack of colour.
We agree they exist independently, but without one the significance of the other is removed.

Good and evil are the only true two natural ideologies.

Ideologies comprise of all the opinions of what "good" and "evil" are, they are infinite.

If you want to make comparison with political ideologies then I say Capitalism exists independently from Communism and vice versa.

No, they feed off eachother. Communism exists because of capitalism

[Bolkonsky]

Evil can't be created. It's the mere absence or side effects of good. Men don't do things because they want to commit acts of evil. They commit acts that are good to themselves, but as a side effect, create evil around others. Every action must have an end, and it must involve good for at least one party. A man won't steal from another man because he wants to be evil for the sake of evil, but rather because the action which is evil to the other man brings good to himself.

[Miracles]

Evil can't be created. It's the mere absence or side effects of good. Men don't do things because they want to commit acts of evil. They commit acts that are good to themselves, but as a side effect, create evil around others. Every action must have an end, and it must involve good for at least one party. A man won't steal from another man because he wants to be evil for the sake of evil, but rather because the action which is evil to the other man brings good to himself.

That's just evil. There's nothing good about stealing from another man for the sake of one's own selfish desires.

And a man may steal for the sake being evil. Maybe he was a troll. That is to cause injury to the person owning.