The End of Russia.

[Menelik_I]

The End of Russia as we Know it : TEROAWKI

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Putin is going to reelect himself to the Russian presidency and nothing seems capable of preventing him to get it ... maybe because He never left the rains of Russian power.

The truth seems to be that Medvedev was a buffon and that Putin has been ruling Russia for 11 years already and by changing the constitution (2 x 6 years terms), Putin is scheduled to be in power till 2024 and would by then beat Tsar Nikolei 23 year reign. But Putin reign could be longer has He will be only 72 by then.

So for the foreseeable future Russia as effectively returned to the Soviet era dictatorship.

Besides regaining a Soviet Dictator, Russia is scheduled to embark in massive weapon program, the same kind of program that bankrupted the URSS. Coupled with the reality that Putin is more interested in enriching his cronies than building a vibrant market economy, there will be no way to pay for it.

Third Factor is Demographic : Young people are leaving, having less babies and leaving in poverty(unless they worship Putin), hence Russian talent pool will likely decline.

How would Russia end ? In my opinion, me being a bored lunatic with a 2mb/s internet bundle, it would all happen when Putin will die.

Apparently, there is only one man capable of running the country properly, and that man is Putin — who won’t live forever. This means there can be only one state when he passes: panic and collapse.

The following will happen:

1- Russia lose Siberia to Chinese Demographic pressure.
2- Too broke to take military actions.
3- What is left of European Russia fall to a new puppet dictator.

or a rerun of the Break up of the URSS ... except this time Russia proper shrink.

your opinion?

[Rome101]

But he's so badass

[Heathen Hammer]

Hopefully, Russia will have a revolution soon enough.
Plus how Putin is "soviet" dictator? He was brought into power by Yeltsin and Berezovsky. He is a capitalist piece of shite, just like Obama or Sarkozy.

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

I hope none of that happens. I'd much rather Russia not collapse. If China gains access to the resource-rich lands of Siberia, the world balance of power will be greatly disturbed.

[Menelik_I]

Plus how Putin is "soviet" dictator?

Putin is a KGB/FSB agent.



No Soviet Dignitary, much less the KGB bunch, was ever judged and put in prison for their crimes, except when being shafted by challenging fellow Soviets turned Oligarchs.

The Soviets lost their union, but kept Russia.

But he's so badass

Don't worry, all his badass stunts are scheduled to proceed uninterrupted ... and destroying Russia in the process is a small price

Anyway, anyone in central Asia better train to kiss the butt of our new Chinese Overlords

[Heathen Hammer]

He is not a Communist, hence not Soviet. Period. If Putin was "Soviet", he wouldn't have allowed things like naming streets in Yeltsin's name or giving awards to Gorbachev.

[Condottiere 40K]

The only way the next revolution will occur is if there are bread riots, something I'm fairly certain Putin will ensure doesn't happen.

Demographically, it doesn't look good as the middle class try to emigrate, squeezed between not having enough money to protect themselves, and having enough that they are targets.

As regards to Siberia, the Chinese might just be interested in buying cheap resources, and leave the administration of that snow locked country to the Russians.

[hellheaven1987]

As regards to Siberia, the Chinese might just be interested in buying cheap resources, and leave the administration of that snow locked country to the Russians.

Silly, due to global warming Siberia would not be a snow-locked region anymore. In fact it would probably become one of last natural resource reserve and giving a direct access to North Pole - something Chinese always want.

[Exarch]

Silly, due to global warming Siberia would not be a snow-locked region anymore. In fact it would probably become one of last natural resource reserve and giving a direct access to North Pole - something Chinese always want.

well if it's going to happen, it better happen fast before russia finally caves in on itself; siberia is pretty much deserted save for a few tribals here and there and the only thing keeping russia afloat are high oil prices.

i dont think russia will ever fully embrace its asian side; they've always regarded the russian far east as a colonial outpost for strategic gain; european russia seems to be the only 'russia' that counts to them in terms of ppl.
it seems that russia in its much diminished state isn't so much a keyplayer in any of the regions (except in the area of european energy-which goes back to russian priorities with europe) so much as a mildly annoying thorn in the side of their betters.

[Nikitn]

mods should be allowed to close stupid threads.

menelik, stop inventing random trash, OK?

[Menelik_I]

mods should be allowed to close stupid threads.

menelik, stop inventing random trash, OK?

What trash ?

1- Putin is going to run for president
2- New constitution will give Putin 2 six years terms.
3- Putin want to rearm Russia to a new era of greatness.

These 3 are facts, which I dully separated from my speculations, u smart ?

[hellheaven1987]

At least Putin is trying; David Cameroon does not even bother to try to make UK great again at all.

[Heathen Hammer]

3- Putin want to rearm Russia to a new era of greatness.

No he doesn't. He just uses pseudo-patriotism for populist reasons.

[Treize]

The Russian army is replacing 100 years old stuff with newer stuff in smaller numbers, so what? They are late...

[hellheaven1987]

The Russian army is replacing 100 years old stuff with newer stuff in smaller numbers, so what? They are late...

Indeed. Putin actually is proposing to cut the size of Russian military into much smaller number and updating the quality - a move that actually makes a lot of sense.

[Menelik_I]

The Russian army is replacing 100 years old stuff with newer stuff in smaller numbers, so what? They are late...

Indeed. Putin actually is proposing to cut the size of Russian military into much smaller number and updating the quality - a move that actually makes a lot of sense.

I have no problem with that, don't take me wrong. Cutting the Russian forces and upgrading can still be very expensive.

My point is that : Long Putin reign + Bad economics due to Cronyism + Expensive Army upgrade = Destruction of Russia.

[Exarch]

russia, russia, russia.

geez, where do i start. Russia was once a great powerful country then of course 1989 happened; the thing with Russia is that they are very much like the Byzantine empire in M2:TW. Russia is more apt to screw its partners in order to get ahead, sorry but it's true; that's part of being in the unique position that Russia is. Always feeling besieged.

plus all of putin's plans and success rests on high oil prices, all his funding for his social and weapons programs depends on oil money; all i have to say, is that whilst i can admire the Russians for having so much pride to fight a losing battle of attempting to reclaim hegemony over its former USSR client states, some ppl have to learn that they're no longer a mighty hegemon anymore.

[hellheaven1987]

My point is that : Long Putin reign + Bad economics due to Cronyism + Expensive Army upgrade = Destruction of Russia.

Bad economics? Russia's economic is better than France which has zero percentage growth.

the main problem with russians i believe is that they still believe they're a superpower, rather than adjusting to global realities

Indeed, Russia needs to stop this superpower crap (which is same as US, stop this superpower crap and accept your decline).

[Exarch]

Indeed, Russia needs to stop this superpower crap (which is same as US, stop this superpower crap and accept your decline).

indeed, cooperation is the name of the game and former hegemons have a hard time cooperating when formerly they used to be able to issue commands and see their vassals get to work.

even the US is having a tough time with its clients this yr, them natives be gettin restless

[Heathen Hammer]

Bad economics? Russia's economic is better than France which has zero percentage growth.

Yeah, but all that growth doesn't go into the country. Basically Russian government is selling raw resources to Western countries, and keeps money from it in foreign banks, usually Western ones too. Its not helping neither Russian state, nor Russians themselves. In order for Russia to actually grow both economically and geopolitically, there is a need for radical political changes, nationalization of oligarchs property and establishment of transparency of economic activity of Russian government officials.

Indeed, Russia needs to stop this superpower crap (which is same as US, stop this superpower crap and accept your decline).

In theory yes, in practice the best way is to achieve a multi-polar world, in which there are several strong superpowers, which contain each other's influence. Nobody would give up geopolitical influence for the "greater good", most powers just follow their interests, which is natural and can't be avoided.