Imperial Civil war?

[hacjiny]

everybody knows that empire and traditional alliance(Dwarves, elves) are allies when starting the game. but when the game proceed, that allies crack, and empire go in to civil war. and because game mod prevent player from making ally or cease fire, player cant rebuild that ally

this civil war things are intened when making mod? or just script bugs? i dont want to fight against my own people.

[Sindaram]

I have to admit I've never really the empire go into any kind of civil war except when one of the factions turns heretic, at that point it only makes sense that they'd need to be put down tho, and generally once you take enough of their cities or kill their faction leader the heretics will get rooted out and a ceasefire (or even a realliance, not sure) will be enforced by the mod, so shouldn't be an issue. So if you happen to have some empire heretics running around, go kill their faction leader and that should fix it.

If somehow you did manage to get into a civil war without any faction turning heretic then you can always modify your files to allow your diplomats to speak to enemies again and just ask for a ceasefire yourself, do so by follow THP's directions in this thread http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=483750 .

Hope that helped you out m8.

[BigHairyMelon]

If you don't want to delete the file, I wasn't sure if it deleted all of the cursor actions, just change the "over enemy" part of the diplomats actions to this:
over enemy
{
default Na tooltip cannot_perform_mission

land Mov Mov
sea Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
army TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
diplomat T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
princess T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
family T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
settlement T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
fort T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
rally_point Mov
naval_rally_point Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
garrisoned_settlement TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
garrisoned_fort TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
port Mov

So it mirrors the over allied part and you should be fine.
I wouldn't copy and paste this though, the spaces are different to what is required in the file

[hacjiny]

If you don't want to delete the file, I wasn't sure if it deleted all of the cursor actions, just change the "over enemy" part of the diplomats actions to this:
over enemy
{
default Na tooltip cannot_perform_mission

land Mov Mov
sea Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
army TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
diplomat T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
princess T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
family T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
settlement T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
fort T Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
rally_point Mov
naval_rally_point Na Na tooltip characters_cannot_go_on_sea
garrisoned_settlement TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
garrisoned_fort TB Na tooltip diplomacy_mission
port Mov

So it mirrors the over allied part and you should be fine.
I wouldn't copy and paste this though, the spaces are different to what is required in the file

well, even i can make that kind of ceasefire, but i cant make ally again. i wonder why those ally is break away? it is hard to maintain that ally to end of that game

[Hell_Bent]

I had this as well. except i wasnt declared war on, but nordland and osterland declared war on each other, then i think osterland went war with another empire faction.
This was 2 turns into the chaos storm.... not a good time for disunity

[BigHairyMelon]

It makes for an interesting campaign when it happens though, I've played a campaign as Reikland and one as the Dark Elves and in both the Empire managed to defeat Chaos in the chaos storm event without much hassle so a civil war for me makes the late game quite fun if you want to continue past the victory conditions. The alliance probably collapse due to the win conditions because each Empire faction needs around 10-15 provinces and seen as they are all trying to achieve this they are bound to come into conflict at some point. I'm also pretty sure that factions at war with another faction now hate each other so much it makes getting a ceasefire let alone another alliance pretty hard, unless you want to splash the cash.

[Hell_Bent]

It makes for an interesting campaign when it happens though, I've played a campaign as Reikland and one as the Dark Elves and in both the Empire managed to defeat Chaos in the chaos storm event without much hassle so a civil war for me makes the late game quite fun if you want to continue past the victory conditions. The alliance probably collapse due to the win conditions because each Empire faction needs around 10-15 provinces and seen as they are all trying to achieve this they are bound to come into conflict at some point. I'm also pretty sure that factions at war with another faction now hate each other so much it makes getting a ceasefire let alone another alliance pretty hard, unless you want to splash the cash.

I'm playing as Reaikland weathering my first 'Chaos Storm' (ho ho). Glad to hear its possible to hold out as them!

[leonn]

played empire countless times and never seen this happen, didnt know it could happen! cheers

[ninja51]

It happens almost every time with me as an Empire faction. One of them decides to go to war with another, then alliances break up, then next thing you know your at direct war with 3 or so Empire factions. Its definitely not intended, but on occassion is interesting. A big civil war is a pretty entertaining change of pace, but in the context of a huge invasion from the Chaos factions and Orcs coming, it doesnt make any sense.

[Werebear]

we fix that n 1/5