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    Default Empire falling apart

    right, thought i'd introduce myself considering this is my first post in here. I've played RTW since it came out, mainly the original and BI, but thought i'd give this mod a go aswell. I started with 6.0 playing as rome and had africa, the greek/bysantine region along with gaul and the iberian peninsula. got pretty bored having to defend my border cities almost every turn, with 4-6 major engagement, fighting the same battle over and over. building this empire took me until bc 190 and with no sign of the marian reforms i decided on trying 6.1 and a new set of tactics.

    Now this is where my problem lies, i'm not really for blitzing about the map, but when i get the opertunity to take a city without much effort i do it. this has lead to me securing the same regions i had in 6.0 in about one third of the time. the germans pose no real threat, gaul, carthage, the iberian rebels, thraze, macedon and the greek cities are gone, and i'm pretty much the only super power. but lately it has started to fall apart from the inside. alot of my cities are rebelling and the only way to avoid ending up in deabt every turn is to take and exterminate new cities and regions, the unhappy and rebellious cities destroy the vital building such as palaces, sewers and temples, it's dificult to rebuild in order to gain order bonuses. by the way; i destroy as many buildings as posible when i take a new town, do every building previously belonging to a diferent faction produce culture penalty or is it just the odeons, taverns and temples?

    any advice would be apriciated, but i might have to abandon this campaign and start over with a more cautious aproach

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    i take it you havent been playing with the scripts on then?

    my advice is to spend more money on your cities and a little less on your armies. dont build farms etc as they just increase population and squalor etc. and try to stop enslaving regions as you conquer

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    by the way; i destroy as many buildings as posible when i take a new town, do every building previously belonging to a diferent faction produce culture penalty or is it just the odeons, taverns and temples?
    this is your problem. Only destroy temples not all the buildings.......

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    I thought enslaving was a great way to bring a potentially unruly population under the thumb when you first occupy it?
    "My God, I wish we had the 9th Australian Division with us this morning."
    - - Major-General Francis de Guingaund, Chief of Staff, Allied Land-Forces Headquarters Europe, D-Day, 1944

    "Australian troops had, at Milne Bay, inflicted on the Japanese their first undoubted defeat on land. Some of us may forget that, of all the allies, it was the Australians who first broke the invincibility of the Japanese army."
    — Field Marshal Sir William Slim.

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    it seems to be under controle at the moment, i got fed up with suicide demands from the senate and although i didn't have the resources to fight 'em i went to war. after that and killing of a few rebel cities i'm back on track. the germans have rebuilt and are hitting me hard though. if i could get to vicus gothi i'd be albe to sort out that problem, but for now i'm stuck defending. maybe after the reforms.

    thanks for the advice regarding buildings giving cultur penalty, i still destroy stables, ballistae ranges etc. in areas they're not needed, easy way to make money. as for spending less on my army, i've had to spend quit alot on garrisons as it's been the only way of keeping order in remote provinces.

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    I like the Rebellions, Its not Bad Thing, But I cant say anything good about traitors of the Empire.

    Keep the Rebellion going on, It is best to empty cities inside the Empire to let Rebel take them Over, Then Kill Them All, No mercy. Destroy all Farms, and Draft men into the Empires Legions, I find it that with large empires, There is no worry aboot the money. Or maybe create some weak and cheap units and resettle them in the Borders.

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    I feel you ARE blitzing, if you had that large of an empire by 190BC that is blitzing is SPQR which is easier to do sue to 0 turn recruitment.

    I suggest this. Play on HUGE unit settings if you arent already and also use the Script this will give 4 turns per year and also activate the garrison script which will prevent your blitzing cities and give you more of a challenge. Also play 6.1 on H/M this will give the AI more money to build more armies.

    You WHOLE problem with your game and what ruins it for you is Blitzing, this mod is NOT designed for that, you need a 1 turn per unit mod for those tactics, otherwise you miss the full potential and fun of SPQR.

    Lt
    Lt_1956
    Creator of SPQR:Total War mod since 2004

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    my first 6.0 game wasn't blitzing, i was playing M/M which is enough for me as i'm not that good, once you've cut of the arteries of the minor factions they don't have a chance, u don't need to blitz to do that by 190 BC.

    this campaign however, as i said earlier i was blitzing, trying to get hold of all the 155 regions before the time is up. i've tried playing it on huge, but find it lagging in the major battles, so doing it on large. if i were to play the game to it's full potential i'd never get the time to finish a campaign, i play to the best of my capabilities

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    Default Re: Empire falling apart

    Well, to maintain order, in my empire. I build 6 spear auxillia(or 6 Hastati if there are still no marian reforms) per settlement and I also destroy every foreign theaters, altars, tavern. I also set the races and games by months and by doing those I get yellow or green happiness... I also let the A.I take care of taxes(which I believe is good idea).

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    theres a way to change the amount of unhappyness in cities. if you want to learn how to mod one file to increase public order in all cities then PM me.

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    Tlv1.0 Thats fine your play to your abilities, but then complaining about your empire falling doesnt make sense? Unless you wish to just complain, because the solution is SIMPLE. ;-) Play on Huge and H/M for 6.1 and use the Script, if wish wish not to do this then there is no one that can help you. And this thread is Moot.
    Lt_1956
    Creator of SPQR:Total War mod since 2004

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    i'm not complaining at all, i had gotten myself into a though spot and came here to see if u people could help me out. I can't play on huge as it lags the major ingagements, and i fear that H/M is a bit too much for me to take on with my limited free time. i will try the scripts however when i start a new campaign

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