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"May charge without orders" stories.
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I was playig against the Milanese, and they were dominating me, but I managed to get their morale pretty low and they had a good general which would be devastating if they lost him... So my Frankish knights(my general was one of them) skirt around the battle and are about to launch a flank charge when they notice some spears hanging around the woods, they charge the spears instead and yeah....
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Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
Oh dear... I've had a little Templar Knight mishap myself.
Facing the Egyptians as England (Vanilla) with the Templar Knights and Hospitaller Knights making the bulk of my forces, I had something engraved in my memory.
My Hospitallers were engaged in a fierce battle with the Egyptian general and some of his forces, and I ordered my dearest Templar Knights to sit back and relax because his entire army was made out of spears. Guess what they did? Charged through the bulk of my infantry to smash against his spearmen. They died. Every, single, one. Four units of Templar Knights down the drain. I didn't even want to move them, I didn't even try. I just said "Well, if they want to die, who am I to stop them?"
Ever since that, I never build Templar Knights again, only Hospitallers.
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Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
I don't think I've ever had any units charge on their own in any of my campaigns. But I've had more than enough units in RTW charge without orders.
Crazy barbarians......
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Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
Originally Posted by Ransom Locke
it always seems to be spears they charge dosen't it
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Templars skirting round the side of a battle to do some hammering, decide to charge some braced pikes instead (I'd just "fixed" them for the first time so they were completely decimated on the charge)
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Semisalis
Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
I have never seen this happen before. I always thought that trait meant that they may decide to charge the target you give them without you telling them to.
Primicerius
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yeah neither do I
yeah, me too
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Semisalis
Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
I was actually saved by this happening before.
Id over extended myself and was in a bad position trying to hold back the best part of 9 stacks of enemies with only 2 stacks of my own men after advancing to fast.
I got drawn into a battle with the whole force and at first it went great.
My army was better experienced had better gear and my men were generally stronger but eventually sheer numbers was driving me back because my men were totally exhausted and the enemy had fresh men constantly joining the battle.
I was almost at breaking point my final men had joint the line and i was trying to hold a hill to negate the enemy cavalry but i was slowly being pushed back.
The enemy general was sitting close to the fight but i couldnt get to him and i was out of missile's then for some random reason one of my units of retinue longbows ( yes longbows ) bonzai charges the enemy's spear men cuts a path through them and butchers the enemy general at which point hes army breaks and the reinforcements run the moment my tiny exhausted blood stained army hits them and im just sitting there thinking what the ---- just happened my bowmen just went hulk and won the battle for me.
From which point onwards i always kept them men as my final line of defence and several time's they won battles that were going badly for me.
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Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
Lol, I didn't know about it either. But I do seem to recall times when some of my troops decide to engage the enemy even though I didn't tell them to, and I would shout at the computer screen (usually just in my mind and not literally :p) "Wtf did they do that for?!".
Praeses
Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
I never experienced any unit charging itself in mtw2 or rtw .
Miles
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I was in the same situation in which it helped. I was ambushed by a Hungarian army. Their army was mostly made up of archers so I imediatly wanted to get around the archers and take them out before my men were riddled with arrows. So I started running my men around the sides when some mercenaries charged straight forward. Before I could pull them back, they revealed some battle field assassins that could've caused a lot of problems had I not seen them. Thanks mercenaries
Semisalis
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No M2TW horror stories, but I do have one for RTW.
During a Senate campaign I had my best 10 star general with a full stack campaigning against the Germans. The Germans sent their chieftain (who also had ten command stars) and a full stack to meet them.
As the germans mainly had spear warbands, I decided to use hammer and anvil tactics, with my hastati/principes pinning the phalanxes, whilst my cavalry (several units of barb cav mercs) flanked and hit them from behind.
As the cavalry mercs were flanking the german line, they see an unpinned spear warband and all of them decide to charge the phalanx, FROM THE FRONT!
Naturally they were all decimated in the space of a few seconds and my entire battleplan collapsed, as my general's unit was forced to be the hammer alone. He died after several charges and my army mass routed, except for the triarii I had in reserve. They at least stood long enough to kill the German chieftain, so I managed to get some consolation.
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Re: "May charge without orders" stories.
I remember from the First MTW , that units of horse would charge an enemy if they were in a certain range -- all on their own that is-- and it was a real pain because in mtw1 once a unit got into a fight, it was far harder to re-deploy them etc. (either because of the controls or the game mechanics)
in m2tw, it happens a lot with western Cavalry where you give them ample room to ride around an enemy formation, to charge into a vulnerable unit of light inf / archers etc, and then they completely forget the order and charge headlong into the main body of enemy infantry! sometimes getting them un-stuck is a real problem esp if your own infantry is fighting there too... but I usually just leave them be and send more men into the fray hoping to win by brute force.
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