How do I acquire unique daemons?

**Kalnaf** · September 23, 2011, 04:40 AM

As seen in the video above.

Can't I even select them in custom battle?

Where are they?

Did the developers just showed them off but did not actually include in the game?

**T&D** · September 23, 2011, 04:43 AM

Some of them are available in campaign but in 60-100turn etc,
and some aren't in game.

**paradamed** · September 23, 2011, 11:31 AM

It would be cool if we could implement them. Apparently someone managed to implement single man units in campaign as well Check this link

**Kalnaf** · September 24, 2011, 05:18 AM

Huh. Wasn't BALROG in TATW already a single-man unit?

**paradamed** · September 24, 2011, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Kalnaf

Huh. Wasn't BALROG in TATW already a single-man unit?

Only in custom battles. In huge settings it was always more than one. Actually if Im not mistaken CoW team were the ones who discovered how to implement single-man units in custom battles but nobody had ever managed to have it working for the campaign. Apparently moneybags figured it out how to make it working for campaign as well.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · September 25, 2011, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by paradamed

Only in custom battles. In huge settings it was always more than one. Actually if Im not mistaken CoW team were the ones who discovered how to implement single-man units in custom battles but nobody had ever managed to have it working for the campaign. Apparently moneybags figured it out how to make it working for campaign as well.

Yep. paradamed is right, although I'm not sure about moneybags figuring it out.

I've also tried to make them work for siege battles, but that's being a pain.

**Kalnaf** · September 25, 2011, 07:11 PM

Why not just make it like a 'captain' unit? Like, having a single 'unique' monster or devil or whatnot in the unit, and have several other 'minion' units attached to it. Is it not possible?
You know, like, Nazgul in TATW have several Black Numenoreans with it but that doesn't mean that those Numenoreans have the same stats as that single Nazgul?

**The Holy Pilgrim** · September 25, 2011, 08:34 PM

I'm afraid it wouldn't work like that.

The captain units are limited to a certain size and to be honest, the captain always stinks at fighting.

You also cannot assign different stats to captains (generals and family members you can, but that's through traits and ancillaries, not through the EDU like other units).

**Loboz** · September 26, 2011, 04:16 AM

Ah the video credits Fabiusbile at the end, wasn't he banned for ripping off other peoples/games models?

I know Daemon Princes (at least) have been included in Reiksfart's submod, I know they're in since I've been using them in my latest campaign

Though if I'm honest they're kinda OP, not that its against the rules/lore, but if you're fighting against them make sure you use arty to kill them otherwise you'll lose around half your army if you're not careful, and thats with the ai using them!