Women: Me? Sexist?

[Col. Tartleton]

Lets face it, good women like cooking and cleaning. Hell, plenty of men (myself included) like cooking and cleaning. But society says I have to get a "real job" in order to not look like a loser whereas her staying at home is cool, so here we are at a compromise.

Men Need:
Confidence
Currency
Cocksure

Wildcard: Humor

Women Need:
Cooking
Cleaning
Cleavage (Ie. this is hardly limited to her breasts for those of you who aren't into that, there are numerous erogenous zones which are cleavages.)

Wildcard: Quiet

Basically the question for debate is: Why can't we be different?

[Ancient Aliens]

I actually think that anyone who stays home to cook, clean, and rear children is a lazy slob. Go out into the workforce and be miserable like the rest of us for s sake.

Why can't we be different, though? Because we are the same, sans some differences in fat tissue in a few places and reproductive organs. Women should work as hard as men. Women should be called to duty during a draft. Women shouldn't about not getting the door held open for them. Women should play contact sports. Etc, etc.

[Phier]

Because cleavage will do nothing for you.

[Taiji]

Because cleavage will do nothing for you.

Bah, just looking at cleavage counts as exercise.

[chamaeleo]

Tartleton: what you seem to want is someone you can dominate, but trust me, it's really a partnership you should be after. Someone who complements your personality and skills, who's similarly invested in some (but definitely not all) of your interests. If you cannot respect your woman, it's never gonna last.

I actually think that anyone who stays home to cook, clean, and rear children is a lazy slob. Go out into the workforce and be miserable like the rest of us for s sake.

Why can't we be different, though? Because we are the same, sans some differences in fat tissue in a few places and reproductive organs. Women should work as hard as men. Women should be called to duty during a draft. Women shouldn't about not getting the door held open for them. Women should play contact sports. Etc, etc.

Running a house and raising kids is serious work. Just because there's no paycheck, doesn't render it unworthy of the title 'job'. Tartleton jests of tossing back whiskey at his 'real' job...yet how would you feel if your stay-at-home, mother-to-your-children were to do likewise?


I, for one, am glad I can support our household such that milady can stay home and do the most important job in our family: that of a fulltime parent. I've got it comparatively easy...simply earning bread in the lab, and returning home each night to a finely tuned nest. I don't need to worry so much about my kid's emotional and intellectual development, nor pay outrageous daycare costs only to keep him home, sick from exposure to some random kid, 30% of the time. My dishes and laundry are usually done before I get home. Always a cold beer in the fridge, and very rarely must I buy the groceries or shop for clothes. Never have to actually read the parenting books, she does it all and always has a verbal Cliffnote summary for my benefit. I sleep like a stone for many straight hours each night, whereas my spouse periodically awakens for various feedings and diaper-changes of which I remain oblivious until the morning report. And she's also teaching a couple of classes to supplement my income...yeah, I've got it pretty good!

Women don't need to be anything. Tartleton's ideal woman would (sooner or later) bore me to tears, and I shudder to consider actually breeding with someone whose intelligence and backbone I find lacking...completely unsuitable genes for our progeny.

Basics and I don't often agree...but he's right. None of us has any idea, to what extent the demanding job of "mother" literally sucks the life out of a person. Yet: they're still somehow inferior because they're also capable of competing for our jobs? Stick any one of you in a room with a kid for 8 hours, and I guarantee your esteem for the 'weaker sex' would skyrocket.

I take it, most of ya'll don't really care about the quality of your unborn kids' childhood...or at the very least, have not thought much about it?

[Col. Tartleton]

Tartleton: what you seem to want is someone you can dominate, but trust me, it's really a partnership you should be after. Someone who complements your personality and skills, who's similarly invested in some (but definitely not all) of your interests. If you cannot respect your woman, it's never gonna last.

I respect women, I just don't worship them.

Running a house and raising kids is serious work. Just because there's no paycheck, doesn't render it unworthy of the title 'job'. Tartleton jests of tossing back whiskey at his 'real' job...yet how would you feel if your stay-at-home, mother-to-your-children were to do likewise?

If things still got done it really doesn't matter. I find a few fingers of whiskey isn't going to do much to me, I'd probably be more efficient. If my wife can get everything done and rewards herself with some wine or something that's great. Running a house and raising kids is lots of work, and I'd be very good at it. It's not where my ultimate interests rest.


I, for one, am glad I can support our household such that milady can stay home and do the most important job in our family: that of a fulltime parent. I've got it comparatively easy...simply earning bread in the lab, and returning home each night to a finely tuned nest. I don't need to worry so much about my kid's emotional and intellectual development, nor pay outrageous daycare costs only to keep him home, sick from exposure to some random kid, 30% of the time. My dishes and laundry are usually done before I get home. Always a cold beer in the fridge, and very rarely must I buy the groceries or shop for clothes. Never have to actually read the parenting books, she does it all and always has a verbal Cliffnote summary for my benefit. I sleep like a stone for many straight hours each night, whereas my spouse periodically awakens for various feedings and diaper-changes of which I remain oblivious until the morning report. And she's also teaching a couple of classes to supplement my income...yeah, I've got it pretty good!

Sooo you're on my side of the argument?

Women don't need to be anything. Tartleton's ideal woman would (sooner or later) bore me to tears, and I shudder to consider actually breeding with someone whose intelligence and backbone I find lacking...completely unsuitable genes for our progeny.

Intelligence and backbone are taught not bred. I didn't say I wanted an idiot, I said I didn't want someone who is like significantly smarter than me. That wouldn't make her an idiot by any means. I'm the one contributing the brains and the spine, she's there for good looks and morals

Basics and I don't often agree...but he's right. None of us has any idea, to what extent the demanding job of "mother" literally sucks the life out of a person. Yet: they're still somehow inferior because they're also capable of competing for our jobs? Stick any one of you in a room with a kid for 8 hours, and I guarantee your esteem for the 'weaker sex' would skyrocket.

I take it, most of ya'll don't really care about the quality of your unborn kids' childhood...or at the very least, have not thought much about it?

I'm great with kids. Don't touch the lava.

[Ancient Aliens]

Running a house and raising kids is serious work. Just because there's no paycheck, doesn't render it unworthy of the title 'job'. Tartleton jests of tossing back whiskey at his 'real' job...yet how would you feel if your stay-at-home, mother-to-your-children were to do likewise?

I'm sure it is serious work, but I would rather women be productive.

[In3x]

I'm sure it is serious work, but I would rather women be productive.

Are the children then to look after themselves?

[Ancient Aliens]

Are the children then to look after themselves?

No, professionals should take care of and rear children. Parents of the modern era, as was mentioned previously, aren't truly parents anymore. Children are seen as a liability and as a nuisance.

[Exarch]

women like to clean or at least for a clean and tidy environment. it is known.
only a fraction of the female population find true satisfaction in a high powered CEO type job

[hellheaven1987]

women like to clean or at least for a clean and tidy environment. it is known.
only a fraction of the female population find true satisfaction in a high powered CEO type job

Now that sounds like men is an animal that like to be in dirty environment.

[Blaze86420]

I want a woman who can cook, clean, and also has an education. I don't want to be married to a brain-dead chick for the rest of my life, even if she is smoking hot.

I am a demanding man.

[Col. Tartleton]

I actually think that anyone who stays home to cook, clean, and rear children is a lazy slob. Go out into the workforce and be miserable like the rest of us for s sake.

Why can't we be different, though? Because we are the same, sans some differences in fat tissue in a few places and reproductive organs. Women should work as hard as men. Women should be called to duty during a draft. Women shouldn't about not getting the door held open for them. Women should play contact sports. Etc, etc.

If women didn't work we'd have no unemployment (well except them), wages would have to be higher to make up for the lack of double income families, and millions of dollars for sexual harassment and crap would stay in the pockets of hard working men who can shoot the all day and drink Whiskey Gingers (preferably a Schweppes Schwiskey) and gin and tonic in their offices. We'd be able to bully under performers into doing a better job or getting the hell out. We wouldn't have to pay for pregnancy pay and all kinds of women crap or women problems. I know I don't plan on hiring women except for attractive secretarial positions (under the pretext that they're technically working as both secretaries and models which to an extent is what they are doing since being around pretty women is good for morale .)

Because cleavage will do nothing for you.

Realistically that was a joke. "Care-taking" is a real third C.

women like to clean or at least for a clean and tidy environment. it is known.
only a fraction of the female population find true satisfaction in a high powered CEO type job

Exactly, and if they do I don't want that. It's hard enough to satisfy a woman let alone actually compete with her... I mean I couldn't be a stay at home dad. I'd literally just drink a twelve pack of beers every single day, cook disgustingly huge piles of sausage, bacon, and eggs every morning (and clean the plate), and then mope around until she comes home at night and yells at me for forgetting to pick up the kids and threatening to divorce me. I'd be like Ron Burgundy without a job.

I want a woman who can cook, clean, and also has an education. I don't want to be married to a brain-dead chick for the rest of my life, even if she is smoking hot.

I am a demanding man.

That's pretty demanding...

I want a girl who looks good in glasses. Handicaps aside (I wear glasses sometimes too so I'm kidding) at least she'll look smart. Honestly if a girl is smarter than me she's going to second guess me all the time and slowly erode my confidence and ruin my marriage . I'd rather have blind faith in my abilities. I'm confident in the fact I know my imperfections still leave me well above the curve, but I'm well aware of the fact I have imperfections. I don't need someone playing harpy and reminding me all the time. I already beat myself up over meae maximae culpae I don't need someone to make me feel like even if it's unintended.

[Blaze86420]

That's pretty demanding...

I want a girl who looks good in glasses. Handicaps aside (I wear glasses sometimes too so I'm kidding) at least she'll look smart. Honestly if a girl is smarter than me she's going to second guess me all the time and slowly erode my confidence and ruin my marriage . I'd rather have blind faith in my abilities. I'm confident in the fact I know my imperfections still leave me well above the curve, but I'm well aware of the fact I have imperfections. I don't need someone playing harpy and reminding me all the time. I already beat myself up over meae maximae culpae I don't need someone to make me feel like even if it's unintended.

I'm not asking for a stuck up nagging me on a daily basis and making my life worse than it already is, I'm looking for an independent, intelligent, and strong willed woman who is able to support her husband. The last thing I need is a naive and inexperienced woman whom I'd have to babysit, hell, I'll take a little bit of ing and criticism if the girl is really smart and knows what she's talking about.

[Blau&Gruen]

Why can't we be different?

Oh, it can be different. It depends on education and on the example parents give their children.

[(s)AINT]

ing sterotypical . There are plenty of men who basically run the household, inside and out and still get up every morning and put in 8 hours.

[Exarch]

Exactly, and if they do I don't want that. It's hard enough to satisfy a woman let alone actually compete with her... I mean I couldn't be a stay at home dad. I'd literally just drink a twelve pack of beers every single day, cook disgustingly huge piles of sausage, bacon, and eggs every morning (and clean the plate), and then mope around until she comes home at night and yells at me for forgetting to pick up the kids and threatening to divorce me. I'd be like Ron Burgundy without a job.



That's pretty demanding...

I want a girl who looks good in glasses. Handicaps aside (I wear glasses sometimes too so I'm kidding) at least she'll look smart. Honestly if a girl is smarter than me she's going to second guess me all the time and slowly erode my confidence and ruin my marriage . I'd rather have blind faith in my abilities. I'm confident in the fact I know my imperfections still leave me well above the curve, but I'm well aware of the fact I have imperfections. I don't need someone playing harpy and reminding me all the time. I already beat myself up over meae maximae culpae I don't need someone to make me feel like even if it's unintended.

aye no complaints there, while i love to cook, i'd love it even more if i came home and had a woman to cook for me, i mean who wouldnt want to come home to this

ing sterotypical . There are plenty of men who basically run the household, inside and out and still get up every morning and put in 8 hours.

those men are called butlers
but
yes, even in this day and age of gender equality, ppl, men and women alike will still consider a stay at home dad as being emasculated.

[Col. Tartleton]

Honestly I kind of hate Don, Betty is pretty much the Virgin Mary and he's constantly cheating on her with random broads. I respect his Ethos and carriage or "Swagger" as they say, but I can't respect him as a man. I'm more of a Sterling guy. He's kind of a cool bastard. He gets it, he's not trying to be anything else. He's just Sterling. Its like Don considers being a decent human being then does a few shots and laughs that notion away on the grounds that he's

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not a real person he's actually a man who stole the identity of a dead man.

I mean I understand that the characters on Mad Men are just archetypes, but it's painful for me to watch Don make all the decisions I never would. Same with Scrubs, JD is basically the antithesis of everything I stand for and I hate him but it's still entertaining.

It's hard out here for a Reactionary.

[Exarch]

Honestly I kind of hate Don, Betty is pretty much the Virgin Mary and he's constantly cheating on her with random broads. I respect his Ethos and carriage or "Swagger" as they say, but I can't respect him as a man. I'm more of a Sterling guy. He's kind of a cool bastard. He gets it, he's not trying to be anything else. He's just Sterling.

well IRL, january jones gave birth to a bastard whilst the bastard's father remains married to his wife. a real winner there alright lol

[Col. Tartleton]

She also invalidates the well documented Daniel Tosh theory that South Dakota's abortion laws weren't really a big deal since there was no one in South Dakota he'd ever have sex with.

It's stupid how good looking she is. I'd marry her. I'm only 14 years younger than her. Ashton is 15 years younger than Demi and she's not nearly as good looking. And she ing likes sharks and crap.

She's a winner. She's hot and very good at acting like a perfect wife... how many men can claim their wife was nominated for an Emmy for being a good wife...

I think I know who my next Signature is going to be.