Divorces

[The Despondent Mind]

After watching Western based Movies and shows my entire life i have to ask this .
Is it normal in a divorce for a female to get like everything ? Completely irrelevant of who earned the material stuff and the primary divorce reasons .
Now i know when Paul Mccartney divorced ( i think ) he gave millions to his ex wife , so i ask why ?
What makes the court decide that she has to get a certain amount of money ?

[Himster]

In a marriage all posessions are shared.

[Thanatos]

In a marriage all posessions are shared.

Not necessarily. In a state in the United States, for example, it depends if that state utilizes communal or separate ideas for property. It also depends on if the item is a gift, or given prior to the marriage.

[Primo]

In a marriage all posessions are shared.

Nope. That would be the utopian form - in the end both are trying to claim as much as they can, and in doubt the woman gets it.

[Ancient Aliens]

I've dabbled in divorce law, so I feel I can make a contribution to this question. Firstly, to expound on what Thanatos was saying, there are no state laws in the United States that ensure that either party automatically receives 50% of the combined marital assets. Depending on the state in which the divorcees live (keyword here being "lived", as divorcees who are residents of multiple states can choose to file proceedings with the state which best suits their needs), the divorcees split assets in one of the following manners (please note that I am only stating U.S. law here, as it is what I am familiar with):

1. Equitable Distribution - There are currently 40 U.S. states that utilize this method for divorce proceedings. This is the method in which the court decides how to divide the marital assets, and a spouse can receive 0-100% of the assets depending on the ruling.
2. Community Property - There are currently 10 U.S. states that utilize this method for divorce proceedings. This method ensures that all assets made during the marriage are split equally between both parties. It doesn't ensure that assets gained prior to the marriage will be split, although lawsuits can be filed against either divorcee and the premarital assets can be divided based on decisions made during these proceedings. Remember too that debts are split equally between both parties in this type of divorce arrangement.

I think it's worthwhile to delve into marital agreements here, as well:

1. Postnuptial agreements are agreements made after the marriage that can protect the assets of either party made during the marriage. It must be notarized, in writing, signed and created by both parties willingly and voluntarily, the terms must be equal to both parties, and all assets and future assets must be disclosed to both parties. Postnuptial agreements are recognized in all 50 states, and are always executed by a court of law.
2. Prenuptial agreements are agreements made prior to the marriage that can protect the assets of either party. It must be notarized, in writing, signed and created by both parties willingly and voluntarily, the terms must be equal to both parties, and all assets and future assets must be disclosed to both parties. Prenuptial agreements are recognized in all 50 states, but are not always recognized by a court of law. Prenuptial agreements have been ruled in many cases to be a violation of the terms of a legal marriage.

Hope that helped!

[Col. Tartleton]

Don't get married legally.

Problem solved.

[The Despondent Mind]

I still don't understand why do females always profit in a divorce .

[Ancient Aliens]

I still don't understand why do females always profit in a divorce .

There are many examples in which wealthy women have to get prenuptials to protect themselves from avaricious men. It works both way.

Now child custody is a different matter entirely.

[The Despondent Mind]

Now child custody is a different matter entirely.

In friends the lesbian couple get's the child on 6/7 days ! I mean COMMON it's not like the father is a bum .
He's a Ph.D for god sakes without any " questionable " behavior .And he's in good terms with the lesbian couple .

There are many examples in which wealthy women have to get prenuptials to protect themselves from avaricious men. It works both way.

Television makes me believe it's usually the men that loose money on divorces .

[Ancient Aliens]

In friends the lesbian couple get's the child on 6/7 days ! I mean COMMON it's not like the father is a bum .
He's a Ph.D for god sakes without any " questionable " behavior .And he's in good terms with the lesbian couple.

This is sadly a case of fiction immitating reality. My grandmother, for example, received custody of my mother and my aunt, even though she had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. My grandfather battled for custody over the two children, and, even though he owned property, had a well paying job, and was mentally and emotionally stable, he was unable to receive custody, purely on the grounds that he was not a women and was somehow less capable of rearing children. My aunt and my mom went through a lot of emotional and mental trauma living with a woman with schizophrenia, it really screwed them up.

This situation desperately needs to be reevaluated, in my opinion.

Television makes me believe it's usually the men that loose money on divorces .

That is the case for a very specific reason: men currently tend to make more money than women, so men are financially preyed on by women more frequently than women are financially preyed on by men.

[Claudius Gothicus]

This is sadly a case of fiction immitating reality. My grandmother, for example, received custody of my mother and my aunt, even though she had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. My grandfather battled for custody over the two children, and, even though he owned property, had a well paying job, and was mentally and emotionally stable, he was unable to receive custody, purely on the grounds that he was not a women and was somehow less capable of rearing children. My aunt and my mom went through a lot of emotional and mental trauma living with a woman with schizophrenia, it really screwed them up.

This situation desperately needs to be reevaluated, in my opinion.

Is this still current legislation and proceedure in the USA? Because given the enourmous amount of studies and academic work that has been put forward regarding the nearly equivalent abilities of both sexes to exercise parenting I don't see such grounds stading for very long in the future...

In Argentina most custodies are shared... but kids with a parent whose mentally unstable/unemployed/addicted/etc. usually get to be mroe time with the able-bodied one

[Ancient Aliens]

Is this still current legislation and proceedure in the USA? Because given the enourmous amount of studies and academic work that has been put forward regarding the nearly equivalent abilities of both sexes to exercise parenting I don't see such grounds stading for very long in the future...

In Argentina most custodies are shared... but kids with a parent whose mentally unstable/unemployed/addicted/etc. usually get to be mroe time with the able-bodied one

This is the case in the United States. We have a lot of backwards legal procedure. Most of it is remnants of our civil rights movement(s).

[Angrychris]

"fat women are like men, they have to work for a living"

[The Despondent Mind]

That is the case for a very specific reason: men currently tend to make more money than women, so men are financially preyed on by women more frequently than women are financially preyed on by men.

This is unfair . We work hard to earn money and some lazy slut divorces and gets the money easy .

[Admiral Piett]

This is unfair . We work hard to earn money and some lazy slut divorces and gets the money easy .

Well, tbh, most rich guys deserve it for the they put their wives and kids through.

I don't think that loss through divorce is near as bad as loss through child support, even though the woman may have a clearly more than manageable budget. A friend of mine's child support that he has to give her every month basically pays his ex's car payments.

[Ancient Aliens]

Well, tbh, most rich guys deserve it for the they put their wives and kids through.

I don't think that loss through divorce is near as bad as loss through child support, even though the woman may have a clearly more than manageable budget. A friend of mine's child support that he has to give her every month basically pays his ex's car payments.

And that's another good point - child support should be used exclusively to support the child. I recently saw a case where a woman used her child support money - from multiple people no less - to fuel her crack addiction, and to purchase the service of male prostitutes. Meanwhile, the children were skipping meals.

[Gaidin]

And that's another good point - child support should be used exclusively to support the child. I recently saw a case where a woman used her child support money - from multiple people no less - to fuel her crack addiction, and to purchase the service of male prostitutes. Meanwhile, the children were skipping meals.

Don't go too far with this train of thought. Money from the child support check that is "used to pay the car payment" is money that doesn't have to be taken from the paycheck to "pay the car payment" and thus is left over for use in raising the child. I leave out extreme cases such as what you describe for the drug addiction because it is an outlier as far as what the average child support check might be directly put toward, leaving the standard paycheck left for. If you really want child support checks to be used specifically to raise the child, as such, and you want it enforceable, then come up with a law requiring a separate bank account to store child support money and keep track of what the money is used for.

But then you've just made everything ten times more complicated. Good job.

[basics]

" What makes the court decide that she has to get a certain amount of money ? "

Mind,

I think the courts take the attitude that a wife must have contributed something into the marriage and, let's face it, who can argue against that, when they make their deliberations. Divorce, any divorce is painful, probably more painful than death because in death there is a finality whereas in divorce the pain lingers on and on, so a fair assessment based on what the courts know can only be advantageous but not always acceptable by both parties.

[The Despondent Mind]

But I'm also talking about the short lived celebrity marriages who i doubt have any real emotions .
Also the man also feels pain so somebody should give him money that makes the pain go away .

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

I'm all for the equitable division of assets upon a divorce, along with child support (unless guardianship of the child(ren) was contested, in which case it should be 50/50 guardianship for each parent), but alimony is a ridiculous concept. Either party will get what they deserve from their qualifications, and consequently, their job.