Turns and Events

[Lord Matt]

I have 2 questions:

The events happens by counting turns or years?

And if I change the game to 2 turns per year, what effects are going to happen in the events? Because I want to have Longbowmen earlier playing 2 turns per year and wait twice the number of turns is going to be really boring...

[Caesar Clivus]

Events are fired by years, not turns. The dates in descr_events.txt are the years after the campaign starts. So a date of 15 in the early campaign will fire that event in 1115. If you change the time scale, the events still fire in the same year so yes, they would take twice as long to fire.

[Lord Matt]

Events are fired by years, not turns. The dates in descr_events.txt are the years after the campaign starts. So a date of 15 in the early campaign will fire that event in 1115. If you change the time scale, the events still fire in the same year so yes, they would take twice as long to fire.

I see.
Thanks

Another thing.
How can I change the event that the Longbowmen will be available ? Maybe put them to appear at the event science_alchemy_book ?

[Caesar Clivus]

You have to edit their recruitment lines in export_descr_buildings.txt in SS6.3\data

[Lord Matt]

You have to edit their recruitment lines in export_descr_buildings.txt in SS6.3\data

I found this:
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 1 0.67 4 0 requires factions { england, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter FULL_PLATE_ARMOR 1

But isnt Heavy Mail Armor event the original one ?
And i change FULL_PLATE_ARMOR 1 to science_alchemy_book ?

[Caesar Clivus]

Yep that's what you need to change. Make sure you find all the ones as there are several recruitment lines for each unit

[Lord Matt]

Yep that's what you need to change. Make sure you find all the ones as there are several recruitment lines for each unit

Ok

I changed to this:
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 1 0.67 4 0 requires factions { england, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter science_alchemy_book
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 0 0.34 2 0 requires factions { england, } and event_counter science_alchemy_book and hidden_resource scotland or hidden_resource ireland or hidden_resource france
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 0 0.34 2 0 requires factions { venice, scotland, france, portugal, spain, aragon, moors, milan, papal_states, sicily, hre, norway, denmark, poland, russia, lithuania, cumans, kwarezm, turks, jerusalem, egypt, byzantium, hungary, kievan_rus, teutonic_order, mongols, slave, timurids, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter science_alchemy_book
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 1 0.5 3 0 requires factions { england, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter new_era_begins 1 and not event_counter science_alchemy_book
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 0 0.25 1 0 requires factions { england, } and event_counter new_era_begins 1 and not event_counter science_alchemy_book and hidden_resource scotland or hidden_resource ireland or hidden_resource france
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 0 0.25 2 0 requires factions { venice, scotland, france, portugal, spain, aragon, moors, milan, papal_states, sicily, hre, norway, denmark, poland, russia, lithuania, cumans, kwarezm, turks, jerusalem, egypt, byzantium, hungary, kievan_rus, teutonic_order, mongols, slave, timurids, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter new_era_begins 1 and not event_counter science_alchemy_book
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 1 0.34 2 0 requires factions { england, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter ENGLISH_ARCHERS 1 and not event_counter new_era_begins 1
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 0 0.17 1 0 requires factions { england, } and event_counter ENGLISH_ARCHERS 1 and not event_counter new_era_begins 1 and hidden_resource scotland or hidden_resource ireland or hidden_resource france
recruit_pool "Longbowmen" 0 0.17 1 0 requires factions { venice, scotland, france, portugal, spain, aragon, moors, milan, papal_states, sicily, hre, norway, denmark, poland, russia, lithuania, cumans, kwarezm, turks, jerusalem, egypt, byzantium, hungary, kievan_rus, teutonic_order, mongols, slave, timurids, } and hidden_resource england and event_counter HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR 1 and not event_counter new_era_begins 1

[Liandro]

You can just remove the
and event_counter science_alchemy_book

from every entry they appear in for the Longbowmen, however they'll be available as soon as you can build the necessary building, not sure if you're wanting that in particular

[Lord Matt]

You can just remove the
and event_counter science_alchemy_book

from every entry they appear in for the Longbowmen, however they'll be available as soon as you can build the necessary building, not sure if you're wanting that in particular

Yeah I want them to be available when I construct an Archery Range and not an Archery Range and Heavy Mail event.

[Caesar Clivus]

Then remove the event counters entirely. But you might as well just use the Disable RR submod option in the SS launcher

[Lord Matt]

I did it. Now I can have Longbowmen sooner.
Thank you both for your help

[Liandro]

Disabling RR entirely makes the game unplayable in my opinion, I go thru and change somethings but not everything is available 100 turns after starting an early campaign, however, I'm not waiting until the 1500's for everything either.

[bɑne]

Disabling RR entirely makes the game unplayable in my opinion, I go thru and change somethings but not everything is available 100 turns after starting an early campaign, however, I'm not waiting until the 1500's for everything either.

Disable RR in 6.3 or in 6.4?

[Liandro]

To - Bane,

Either really, massive amounts of armies already appear, now add into that massive heavy metal armies of Feudal knights, then in about 25 or so turns after Feudal footmen, then come the Chivalric knights, or worse French Lancers by 1190. Or further east, tons of ME Heavy Archers/Spearmen... Heavy Boyars and so on, it becomes really stupid really quickly, the Mongols come and go like a fart in the wind because of the Byzantine Scholarii and Spatharii tou Vasileous (sp?) troops, actually everyone kinda comes and goes when facing that.

[Lord Matt]

I'm still using RR and I still can recruit Longbowmen. But I'm using only two units of them. One in Caen and the other in my main army. So the battles still balanced.