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    A drama that tells the story of the passengers and crew, their families on the ground and the flight controllers who watched in dawning horror as United Airlines Flight 93 became the fourth hijacked plane on the day of the worst terrorist attacks on American soil: September 11, 2001. 'United 93' recreates the doomed trip in actual time, from takeoff to hijacking to the realization by those onboard that their plane was part of a coordinated attack unfolding on the ground beneath them. The film attempts to understand the abject fear and courageous decisions of those who--over the course of just 90 minutes--transformed from a random assembly of disconnected strangers into bonded allies who confronted an unthinkable situation.

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    Do you think this should be made into a movie? Or do you think that Hollywood should let their memories rest and not try to make a quick buck off their sacrifice?

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    If it is political, then the makers of this movie deserve to be publically beat on top of the Freedom Tower when it is completed.

    If it is not, this may be a good movie.
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    Two words:

    TOO

    SOON.

    Plus, whatever is in it is pretty much all speculation anyways. No one knows for sure what happened on that plane, and the phone records are yet to be (or have they just recently been) released.


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    saw the preview before inside man; looks alright. Its a story that needs to be told, though now is not the prime time per se. Maybe a few years when people begin to forget a bit.

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    It'll reinvigorate a sense of patriotism and pride and nationalism in the event.

    And that will simply screw us all the more. I am not to rant of being proud of your nation, but it was this kind of thinking which had us doggedly follow the Bush Administration into Iraq with this sort of "RAWR! All muslims are out to get us, RAWR! Let's invade Iran, because even though they are actually persians they are arabs to us!". It'll open up the old wound and cause more problems instead of having us work harder on fixing them so they never appear again.

    I would rather see it done in a time when we are not directly affected by our responce to the attack (Afganistan, and to some, Iraq), as anything during it will seem really like it's done as propaganda, even if its based in the truth. Make it more in ode to the flight, than in ode to us hating terrorists and wanting to go and invade other countries to root em out, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio XX Valeria Victrix
    Two words:

    TOO

    SOON.

    Plus, whatever is in it is pretty much all speculation anyways. No one knows for sure what happened on that plane, and the phone records are yet to be (or have they just recently been) released.
    The Irony: speculation aside...this project was done with the blessing of the victims' families according to the making of video I saw waiting for a movie to start a few weeks ago, which contained interviews with the families.

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    Ahiga, when I watched the making of bit as well as the preview I couldn't find any real political agenda in the whole thing. For it all, it seems to be a 'wow...**** is happening...what do we do?' film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio XX Valeria Victrix
    Two words:

    TOO

    SOON.

    Plus, whatever is in it is pretty much all speculation anyways. No one knows for sure what happened on that plane, and the phone records are yet to be (or have they just recently been) released.
    Evidently that is what some people shouted at the screen during a preview of movie few weeks ago too. I dont see anything wrong with the movie if it is as Farnan said not political but I do think its too fresh in the minds of people to have a movie so soon.

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    I think Hollywood has been respectful about not not trying to cash in on 9/11. A little bit after the attacks I kind of expected a movie to come out within two years, and here we are five years later and just now one is coming out.

    Of course, I don't think any major movie company would have backed a film so soon because of the fear of backlash. I wonder how difficult it was to get this movie greenlighted.
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    I just think this country has a sick obsession with celebrating 9/11. Not remembering it, but celebrating it.

    In fact, case in point. I live in Gettysburg, PA, and on the first anniversary of 9/11, in 2002, the town put on a Remembrance Ceremony in the town square. Well, it was sick. I couldn't have imagined anything more offensive to the dead of 9/11 or the families. It started off somber, but then it turned into a 'YAY AMERICA' fest. To top it all off, a local member of the military gave a speech, and in it he gave all of two minutes of speech dedicated to the defeat of 9/11. Most of his speech was warmongering about how we should go into Iraq to avenge the deaths of those killed on 9/11. It was absolutely pathetic, and it offended me greatly, to use their deaths for the purpose of warmongering.

    This movie follows the same trend it would seem. Not in the warmongering sense, but in the sense that we are grasping desperately for something to celebrate about that day and about this war. Because let's face it, there's not much to celebrate so far...So, we'll turn to a speculated account of what may or may not have happened on the only unsuccessful hijacked plane of 9/11, and people will continue to celebrate a day that we were beaten on our own soil, hands down.


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    I don't think it's too soon, I just don't think it's going to be very entertaining to see it, since you see and hear it EVERYWHERE you go.
    Always some guy wanting you to be reminded of the 9/11 tragedy. Yes, it was horrible. But I don't want to be told to me every day. Then it becomes annoying.
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    Was it really almost five years ago?
    Seems like it was yesterday.
    Either way, I'm willing to be it'll be a good documentary/thriller crossover type thing.
    That or it will fail spectacularly.
    The fact that we all know what happens in the end gets rid off the possibility of a good surprise ending, so the film makers have to make the best of character development and personal sympathies.
    Politically wise:they had movies about WWI in the 1920s (and I believe even late 1910s)
    Was that not too soon?
    Apparently not.





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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat
    Politically wise:they had movies about WWI in the 1920s (and I believe even late 1910s)
    Was that not too soon?
    Apparently not.
    Yes, but by the 1920s, WWI was over. People knew the outcome. The war on terror, if you want to call it that, is still FAR from over. People can't watch it and say, "Well, at least we know how it all turned out."


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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat
    Was it really almost five years ago?
    Seems like it was yesterday.
    Either way, I'm willing to be it'll be a good documentary/thriller crossover type thing.
    That or it will fail spectacularly.
    The fact that we all know what happens in the end gets rid off the possibility of a good surprise ending, so the film makers have to make the best of character development and personal sympathies.
    Politically wise:they had movies about WWI in the 1920s (and I believe even late 1910s)
    Was that not too soon?
    Apparently not.
    The movies produced during a war are bound to be propaganda movies, I can hardly remember a good war movie filmed during the war, with the possible exception of Casablanca, that was not a war movie per se.
    How people can avoid the hughe pitfall of sentimentalist depiction of an event, still burning in the American mind (this thread bears whitness to the fact) is beyond my understanding.
    Just think how long after the end of Vietnam war a good war movie was made (1979, Apocalypse now), or how many decades it took to German film makers to cope with their country's collective trauma.

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    Better words:
    Waste of money!!!! -Leon

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    But it was still Fresh in their minds, there was a huge number of vets around and it was far more damaging than the war on terror has been and most likely (let's hope so) will be.





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    Mission to Moscow might have been propaganda, but it was a great movie nonetheless!
    Fahrenheit 911 was also a great and very entertaining movie.
    Who cares if it was propaganda, shouldn't the smarter people be able to see past that?





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    I heard they took the preview off the air in some theaters because it scared people.

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    this movie is going to bomb
    i estimate no more than 10 million dollars domestic gross
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