- The Late Antiquity Historical Portraits -

[Choki]

Nice Job!!!

[Parzival2211]

Very nice idea and very well done! +rep

[Jezza93]

Ballista is mentioned in the description of Shapur,though that is a copy and paste from wikipedia

[Joar]

Ballista is mentioned in the description of Shapur,though that is a copy and paste from wikipedia

Ah, OK. Well, like I wrote in the opening post, the text is just there to give the characters a bit of background, and most of the text is not written by me.

Can I undergo a question? You did the protrait of Clovis, when will you do the protrait of the great Langobard King Alwin (Alboino) who conquerd Italy after the Gothic Wars and founded the Langobardic Kingdom of Italy?

He's on the list of characters to do.

[Sir Althfons]

I give you 10 in a 10 scale scoring. Outstanding.- It's clear that this theme really inspires you...
It was very interesting to read.

[Diocle]

For Joar:

I'm reading the book of S.Williams 'DIOCLETIAN and the Roman recovery' about Diocletianus, the author indicates the protrait of Istambul as the most reliable, obviously you know it and I think your protrait is quite similar to the facial features of the sculpture, it could be interesting, if you find this suggestion acceptable and if you have the time, try to use some beard leaving the facial features intact, in this way you could give the impression of a more aged guy without touching the face, in the end I think the use of a short beard was a coomon fashion for the illyrian soldiers/officers.

This is only a silly idea by me, please don't take it as an advice, you know how to do the work much better than me, and whatever your choice, will be the best!

[isa0005]

You could always do an "Antiquity Pack" that would be very cool

Also can't wait to see the rest of your work! its all amazing!!!!

[char]

Very nice.

[Boitre]

Really good work Joar. Thumbs up!

Btw, do you plan to make one picture for Bonifacius also?

[Joar]

Really good work Joar. Thumbs up!

Btw, do you plan to make one picture for Bonifacius also?

Yes, Bonifatius is on my to do list.

You could always do an "Antiquity Pack" that would be very cool

Well, you never know...

This is only a silly idea by me, please don't take it as an advice

Advice and help is always appreciated. When I have the time, I'll look into Diocletian and see what I can do. And thanks for the image, one can never have enough reference material.

[Rampante-Cid]

Excelent pictures Joar! Do you plane make pictures for Carus and Carinus also?

[Joar]

Excelent pictures Joar! Do you plane make pictures for Carus and Carinus also?

Short answer: Yes.

[Diocle]

Thank for your work and your words Joar!!!
Do you know? Everytime I look at Theodora protrait I like it more and more,....I'm falling in love with that terrible woman (and this is against my moral belifs about her and her husband!!)!!!
You have really captured the charm of her eyes!!!! Great work again!!!

[Iaius Statius Laurentius]

Holy cow, these are incredible. I've not played any of the late empire mods because I find the scale too daunting, though I have played the Western Empire in IB: Beyond Roman Glory and Soissons in IB2: Britanniae. It'd be fantastic if those implemented your portraits in the same way that the earlier (chronologically) IB mods have. I did notice Julius Nepos missing from the list in the first post--not that I'm a particular fan of his, but I'm looking forward to the upcoming IB: Odovacar Rex Italiae and I believe Nepos would be in charge of the WRE at that point . . .

Incredible work on these portraits! And if you do decide to extend them to classical antiquity, that'd be neat. In fact, I have a bit of a request if you're willing to entertain it. This is less for RTW and more to see how you'd construct a realistic portrait from coin/statuary like you have here---would you be willing to make one of these for Julia, daughter of Augustus? I could supply coin/statue sources, no problem.

[Joar]

I did notice Julius Nepos missing from the list in the first post

He's on my to do list, as well.

would you be willing to make one of these for Julia, daughter of Augustus? I could supply coin/statue sources, no problem.

You're welcome to upload these sources, if you want. However, at the moment my priority is the late Antiquity characters.

[tomySVK]

Here are few pictures of the emperor Tacitus, successor of Aurelian (he ruled in 275-276 AD). I hope, they will help to make another excellent and historical portrait

[Iaius Statius Laurentius]

would you be willing to make one of these for Julia, daughter of Augustus? I could supply coin/statue sources, no problem.

You're welcome to upload these sources, if you want. However, at the moment my priority is the late Antiquity characters.

Whoops, guess I forgot to upload the sources for Julia. There are a bunch of disputed sculptures of her, with only two of them that are reasonably certain to be her. The first attachment is a piece at the Pergamon museum with an elaborate nodus coiffure, but a sort of oddly cherubic face (some people suspect she's Marcella, daughter of Octavia). The second attachment is from a recent discovery in Corinth, a sort of Julian family shrine--it's the only undisputed Julia out there, given that it was found alongside statues of Gaius and Lucius Caesar and has a clear visible resemblance to portraits of Augustus. And then the last attachment is just a coin of Octavia, with a good sideview of the nodus hairstyle that Julia has in these head-on portraits.

I would suggest the hairstyle of the first one, with more of the facial features of the second. As for physical coloration, unlike a lot of the late antiquity people, she'd be a true Roman of the Romans. She would probably have worn a light peplos or tunica with bared shoulders, given the dialogue attributed to her by Macrobius.

I suppose you won't be able to get to her for a while, but it'll be awesome whenever you can do so.

[Joar]

Sorry for my late reply, I've been having some internet issues.

Thanks for the images, I'm certain they'll come in handy!

[Joar]

Thanks!

[Diocle]

Great image tomySVK! Was Tacitus another Illyrian soldier? If I remeber correctly , yes, and we can see another short beard, it should really be the fashion between Illyrian soldiers/officials, at least until the time of Constantinus!