Unfortunate Nature of Atheism

[Col. Tartleton]

It's kind of sad really. There's no evidence of Gods or Goddesses. Of fairies and dwarves and nymphs. Satyrs, unicorns, or magic. None. A shame.

It would be nice if when I lay me down to sleep someone was there I could talk to who would never tell my secrets, someone who would always know what to say. Someone who would look out for me. Someone who would hold my hand through difficult times. God would be nice. Goddess if she prefers. Pantheon if they will it.

It would be nice if your loved ones would be together again. If would be nice to have second chances, maybe third and more if needed. It would be nice to have a guardian angel not a chip on your shoulder. It would be nice if things were like this. As nice as it is to suffer and achieve it would be nice if we could just have happiness.

But to my knowledge they aren't and that's sad. Not so sad Id delude myself. But sad enough a revelation (nothing serious, that would burden me excessively) would be a welcome sight.

[chriscase]

Yeah but who's to say that the deity would really be all that "nice"? Peeping-Tom God is totally freaking creepy. And Exterminate-The-World God is a total nutjob.

We're better off without 'em all.

[Hilarion]

I've heard atheists say this before, as if they expect to be lauded for making some sort of great sacrifice in the name of "rationality." It's also a convenient opportunity to dismiss theists as naive and deluded, as I see you've wasted no time doing in your post.

[Col. Tartleton]

I've heard atheists say this before, as if they expect to be lauded for making some sort of great sacrifice in the name of "rationality." It's also a convenient opportunity to dismiss theists as naive and deluded, as I see you've wasted no time doing in your post.

No I said I wouldn't delude myself. For all I know some people actually have experienced god. It's one thing to have been at the crucifixion in the case of Christianity. It's something else to read about it like a hundred generations later. It's one thing to see Moses part the sea, quite another to read about it 3,500 years later. It's one thing to have been at the sack of Troy, it's another to read about the duel of Achilles and Memnon. It's one thing to read the Legend of King Arthur. Quite another to have held the Grail.

[CamilleBonparte]

Yeah but who's to say that the deity would really be all that "nice"? Peeping-Tom God is totally freaking creepy. And Exterminate-The-World God is a total nutjob.

When you're resorting to blatant caricatures, you are no longer speaking intelligently about anything.

[basics]

" We're better off without 'em all. "

chriscase,

How do you know that since there never was a time when there was no adherence to something called god or gods? I mean what could you guys find to replace all the prattle spouted about something that never existed in all your wisdom?

[Himster]

Buuuuuuuuut..............there still could be god, gods, goddesses, fairies and dwarves and nymphs. Satyrs, unicorns, or magic.

[Sher Khan]

It's kind of sad really. There's no evidence of Gods or Goddesses. Of fairies and dwarves and nymphs. Satyrs, unicorns, or magic. None. A shame.

It would be nice if when I lay me down to sleep someone was there I could talk to who would never tell my secrets, someone who would always know what to say. Someone who would look out for me. Someone who would hold my hand through difficult times. God would be nice. Goddess if she prefers. Pantheon if they will it.

Facebook.

It would be nice if your loved ones would be together again. If would be nice to have second chances, maybe third and more if needed. It would be nice to have a guardian angel not a chip on your shoulder. It would be nice if things were like this. As nice as it is to suffer and achieve it would be nice if we could just have happiness.

Crowd source your superego through media. They have apps for that.

But to my knowledge they aren't and that's sad. Not so sad Id delude myself. But sad enough a revelation (nothing serious, that would burden me excessively) would be a welcome sight.

Just watch aspirational television.

[boofhead]

Just watch aspirational television.

Yeah, Tony Robbins.

HE IS THE MESSIAH



A crowd of Tony worshippers --------->

[Cúchulainn]

It would be nice if when I lay me down to sleep someone was there I could talk to who would never tell my secrets, someone who would always know what to say. Someone who would look out for me. Someone who would hold my hand through difficult times. God would be nice. Goddess if she prefers. Pantheon if they will it.

Facebook.

Real People, better than facebook.

[Vir Triumphalis]

Atheists are indeed unfortunate. We have no God to comfort us in times of difficulty. But as an atheist, I have to sacrifice such things for the sake rationality.

[Primo]

Atheists are indeed unfortunate. We have no God to comfort us in times of difficulty. But as an atheist, I have to sacrifice such things for the sake rationality.

Then define rationality.

[Vir Triumphalis]

Then define rationality.

Maybe not believing in fairy tales, etc. I don't know, but that's just me.

[Diamat]

Maybe not believing in fairy tales, etc. I don't know, but that's just me.

I would be careful with your definition of rationality. You can still be rational and believe in a God or gods.

[Vir Triumphalis]

I would be careful with your definition of rationality. You can still be rational and believe in a God or gods.

Of course. Perhaps a better word?

[Pontifex Maximus]

I would be careful with your definition of rationality. You can still be rational and believe in a God or gods.

Well, not entirely. Because there's nothing rational about blind faith, which is what a lot of religion is when you boil it down enough.

[Prodigal]

Take up the atheist's burden—
Send forth the best ye breed—
Go send your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child
Take up the atheist's burden
In patience to abide
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple
An hundred times made plain
To seek another’s profit
And work another’s gain
Take up the atheist's burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah slowly) to the light:
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
“Our loved Egyptian night?”
Take up the atheist's burden-
Have done with childish days-
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom, The judgment of your peers!

[Diamat]

Corrections:

Take up the theist's burden—
Send forth the best ye breed—
Go send your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child
Take up the theist's burden
In patience to abide
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple
An hundred times made plain
To seek another’s profit
And work another’s gain
Take up the theist's burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah slowly) to the light:
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
“Our loved Egyptian night?”
Take up the theist's burden-
Have done with childish days-
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom, The judgment of your peers!

[Pontifex Maximus]

So you can definitly prove god doesn´t exist? Otherwise it is just another assumption, another believe.

This is just too easy.

Do you make it a habit of believing in things which cannot be disproved? Half fairy half cyborg gorillas perhaps?

Take up the atheist's burden—
Send forth the best ye breed—
Go send your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child
Take up the atheist's burden
In patience to abide
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple
An hundred times made plain
To seek another’s profit
And work another’s gain
Take up the atheist's burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah slowly) to the light:
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
“Our loved Egyptian night?”
Take up the atheist's burden-
Have done with childish days-
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom, The judgment of your peers!

This is incredibly offensive, in an intellectual try hard sort of way. The usual ad hominem (us, the saved, the enlightened, the elect, against the damned, the backwards, the unbelievers), arrogant, holier than thou attitude that makes me so happy I left all that well behind me years ago. Even if god exists and I'm completely wrong, I'm happy as a clam I don't act like this. Unparalleled hubris.

[Primo]

This is just too easy.

Do you make it a habit of believing in things which cannot be disproved? Half fairy half cyborg gorillas perhaps?

Tought you would say that. But no, I don´t believe in fairy half cyborg gorillas, as I have no logical reason to.

That there actually are logical reasons to believe in god is a fact every atheist tends to forget - what a surprise.