Rohan Army

[Pyres Δt Varanasi]

Hello guys i am looking at all factions in Third Age and i think that the Rohirim cavalry need more power they are suppose to have the Best Cavalry in Middle-Earth just like the Mongols did in vanilla MTW2. Their charge is kinda of stupid and they need better stats and allot more power in the charge their main power is the cavalry but is not that powerful still =[ . They should be like in the movie Return of the King in Pellenor Fields where they rout all of Sauron's army until the Haradrim Mumakil arrive and broke the Rohan cavalry but they where extremely good attacking the orcs and in Helm's Deep when Erkeband (or Eomer in the Movie) arrive to break the siege from Saruman's Army.

What you Guys think ?

[Dustindesrctin]

Hello guys i am looking at all factions in Third Age and i think that the Rohirim cavalry need more power they are suppose to have the Best Cavalry in Middle-Earth just like the Mongols did in vanilla MTW2. Their charge is kinda of stupid and they need better stats and allot more power in the charge their main power is the cavalry but is not that powerful still =[ . They should be like in the movie Return of the King in Pellenor Fields where they rout all of Sauron's army until the Haradrim Mumakil arrive and broke the Rohan cavalry but they where extremely good attacking the orcs and in Helm's Deep when Erkeband (or Eomer in the Movie) arrive to break the siege from Saruman's Army.

What you Guys think ?

Sounds good but I don't play as Rohan cause I dislike their playing style. Just edit the descr unit file yourself? I do that to raise the elves ranged attack a bit for the exact same reason!

[Nastrael]

Sounds good but I don't play as Rohan cause I dislike their playing style. Just edit the descr unit file yourself? I do that to raise the elves ranged attack a bit for the exact same reason!

and as far as the elves, ive killed 3 full stacks of Mordor's army at once, while they had Olog Hai and uruks. u just need to place them behind a good line of spearmen/swordsmen so that you can fire over them as the enemy charges your ranks. also if you hold Lothlorien as the Silven Elves you can easily kill a full OoMM army with Balrogs if you have Haldir and a few Sentinels and strong walls i.e. no wooden crap.

[Dustindesrctin]

and as far as the elves, ive killed 3 full stacks of Mordor's army at once, while they had Olog Hai and uruks. u just need to place them behind a good line of spearmen/swordsmen so that you can fire over them as the enemy charges your ranks. also if you hold Lothlorien as the Silven Elves you can easily kill a full OoMM army with Balrogs if you have Haldir and a few Sentinels and strong walls i.e. no wooden crap.

I understand but I edited their stats for personal uses. Why do the best archers in middle earth barley have stats higher than human rangers? It just didn't make since to me and I changed it

[Nastrael]

I understand but I edited their stats for personal uses. Why do the best archers in middle earth barley have stats higher than human rangers? It just didn't make since to me and I changed it

fair enough. but just remember that although the elves have immortal lives and train for millenia, they take their teachings and pass it on to the humans, especially the Dunedain Rangers, who also live a VERY long time. Aragorn will prolly live to several hundred years due to the fact that hes half Dunedain and half Elf. but regardless, the fact that they both learn from one another says alot about how their fighting stiles and skills may be quite similar.

[sher]

They have low upkeep => much more cavalry in army.

[Nastrael]

idk what ur talking about, i destroy with my Rohan army, i havent lost a single battle with them yet, 4 Generals, 13 Eored Heavy Lancers and 3 Royal Guard. and this is endgame, early game it was 2 Generals and 8 Riders of Rohan. I've just abour demolished Isengard and am currently helping Gondor reclaim Anorien (Minas Tirith) and trying to help out Eriador with OoG. So i dont see any issues with the cav as far ass Rohan is concerned.

[Pyres Δt Varanasi]

idk what ur talking about, i destroy with my Rohan army, i havent lost a single battle with them yet, 4 Generals, 13 Eored Heavy Lancers and 3 Royal Guard. and this is endgame, early game it was 2 Generals and 8 Riders of Rohan. I've just abour demolished Isengard and am currently helping Gondor reclaim Anorien (Minas Tirith) and trying to help out Eriador with OoG. So i dont see any issues with the cav as far ass Rohan is concerned.

Thats great for you Nastrael but im just giving my personal opinion so dont take it personal .

[Nastrael]

lol ok i understand, its just that i always see ppl ripping on Rohan's cav but when i play i see no issues with them, i guess its just my strategy. what i usually do is charge into the front line, then the next and then the next. when u charge into the lines behind the front (typicly the archers) they rip straight through the front line infantry even if spearmen are integrated. its especially useful against Uruk Hai Pikemen and Guards or Orthanc because you lise 5-10 men on the innitial hitdue to the spears but then you are rightinside their formation so their spear wall and phalanx formations are useless. its also great forkilling the enemy's general asap so the entire army routs within a few seconds depending on the size of your and their forces and the quality of troops on the field. ive killed 4 full stacks of Isengard's army at one battle using this tactic. all you need to do is push into their rear line/general's unit and keep their forces seperated and killing each army individually. so try out this tactic and see how it works out. because i used to just charge into the front line troops and try to break them that way but it never went well. the Rohan cav excell at hand to hand combat and lack in the initial punch but if you can do this no army will ever be able to defeat you!!!

[Nastrael]

also theyre great for targeting enemy generals with cav bodyguard. i kille the Witch King outside Minas Tirith while his armyy was busy fighting Gondor's troops. i just ran in and surrounded him. and only lost a handul of guys against his bodyguard.

[Pyres Δt Varanasi]

Yeah Nastrael is right thats why the Last Alliance of Elves and Men fought so well in Mordor , because Dunedain and the Elves learn form each other and they formations where great and they work perfectly together at the Battle of Dagorland and Barad-Dur

[Nastrael]

ty Oli but you should really try my Rohan strat and give me some feedback on it. i wanna know if i found the perfect tactic for Rohans cav XD

[Pyres Δt Varanasi]

Ok gonna try it and Let you know

[Nastrael]

so have you reached a verdict yet?

[Pyres Δt Varanasi]

so have you reached a verdict yet?

Yes they are good but i want to feel that their cavalry is the best in middle earth not the same as the elite cavalry of gondor but they are good just going to edit some stats.

[Adjudant-Major]

I have risen the defensive skill factor by three for all cavalry, and made the Riders of Rohan recruitable from the basic stables, and most Rohan settlements have them from the start. I am quite content with the cavalry performance now.

[Makus]

they're quite good once you pass the barracks events

[Dutch-Balrog]

I advise that you don't make then too overpowered, gameplay wise. I just enlarged their unit size, but not too much because they should be the strongest cavalry indeed, but not too overpowered. They still dont survive against enemy anty-cavalry troops in my game, while they are stronger then any other cavalry unit (only the elite cavaly ofcourse, the rest is balanced with the lower tier enemy units). I tested it alot of times and i can tell you that it is not easy to find the right balance. Good luck with it.

[Pyres Δt Varanasi]

I advise that you don't make then too overpowered, gameplay wise. I just enlarged their unit size, but not too much because they should be the strongest cavalry indeed, but not too overpowered. They still dont survive against enemy anty-cavalry troops in my game, while they are stronger then any other cavalry unit (only the elite cavaly ofcourse, the rest is balanced with the lower tier enemy units). I tested it alot of times and i can tell you that it is not easy to find the right balance. Good luck with it.

thats what i did i did not make them overpower just better than other factions cavalry units the only ones that can make a challenge are the Rhunic Katarapsc ( Dont know how to spell it sorry). and of course they are still weak to pike units , spears , javelin's and HARAD Tanks (Mumakil's)

[Nastrael]

idk wut the issue is stat-wise. im doing fine in my rohan campaign and no1 can stop them in an all-out charge. i lose like 7% per battle against full stacks of Isengard troops, even when they have pikemen. i just dont see howthey need a tune up. but if you think they need one then so be it.