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    If same sex marriages were allowed, would we start seeing cultures moving towards arranged same sex marriages where arranged marriages are the norm (say India or the middle east)?

    How would this impact society? statistics show that arranged marriages are usually more successful, not unlike the same statistics for swingers
    so how would you feel about same sex arranged marriages?

    EDIT: it also occurred to me that in order to stay relevant to the modern world, royalty may want to organise same sex arranged marriages between members; yes, between members since inbreeding is a time honoured Royal tradition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    If same sex marriages were allowed, would we start seeing cultures moving towards arranged same sex marriages where arranged marriages are the norm (say India or the middle east)?

    How would this impact society? statistics show that arranged marriages are usually more successful, not unlike the same statistics for swingers
    so how would you feel about same sex arranged marriages?

    EDIT: it also occurred to me that in order to stay relevant to the modern world, royalty may want to organise same sex arranged marriages between members; yes, between members since inbreeding is a time honoured Royal tradition
    Same sex marriage is culturally liberal while arranged marriage is culturally conservative/traditional. So no, I don't think you would see the blending of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilarion View Post
    Same sex marriage is radically liberal. Arranged marriage is radically conservative/traditional. So, no.
    traditions/conservatives change with the times; surely an indian family that seeks to preserve their own caste roots would look to same sex marriage within caste

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    Same sex marriage is a long way off from being commonly accepted in India. Right now only some Bollywood stars and activists are campaigning for LGBT rights, and they don't have the support of the majority. Not only that, but the people campaigning for LGBT rights are virtually unanimously opposed to arranged marriages and caste system. Trust me, I just spent a few weeks there this summer and I can tell you that India is very traditional culturally and acceptance of same sex marriage by the vast majority of the populace is not within the foreseeable future, not to mention the two customs coexisting. What you're proposing is in the realm of fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilarion View Post
    Same sex marriage is a long way off from being commonly accepted in India. Right now only some Bollywood stars and activists are campaigning for LGBT rights, and they don't have the support of the majority. Not only that, but the people campaigning for LGBT rights are virtually unanimously opposed to arranged marriages and caste system. Trust me, I just spent a few weeks there this summer and I can tell you that India is very traditional culturally and acceptance of same sex marriage by the vast majority of the populace is not within the foreseeable future, not to mention the two customs coexisting. What you're proposing is in the realm of fantasy.
    that aspect of their culture must be preserved and how best than with arranged same sex marriages
    compromise being the name of the game

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    How would a same sex arrange marriage preserve a family gene or whatever? Never going to happen.

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    How would a same sex arrange marriage preserve a family gene or whatever? Never going to happen.
    this. one inherently goes against the other.

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    So two poor men are arranged as poor kids?

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    How do their parents guess their child's sexuality?
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    I considered a straight man going through with an arranged marriage to a gay man out of loyalty to his family and tradition, and I loled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    So two poor men are arranged as poor kids?
    if they want, they can do a coin toss to determine who's Top and who's Bottom
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    How do their parents guess their child's sexuality?
    marriage is not about sex or love, it is about politics, more so with an arranged marriage.
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    I considered a straight man going through with an arranged marriage to a gay man out of loyalty to his family and tradition, and I loled.
    it's the future, man. If same sex marriages are allowed, the next logical step would be for families who are into arranged marriages to increase their options by getting their sons to marry other men

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    it also occurred to me that the tradition of buggery practiced amongst greeks and turks could be enshrined in arranged same sex marriages in an effort to bring peace to these former enemies.

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    Indian traditionalism and acceptance of homosexuality will not mix, becuase homosexuality is liberal and not accepted in traditionalism. India would have to be fully liberalized, getting rid of such arranged marriages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitsar View Post
    Indian traditionalism and acceptance of homosexuality will not mix, becuase homosexuality is liberal and not accepted in traditionalism. India would have to be fully liberalized, getting rid of such arranged marriages.
    india is a very liberal place, it is after all a democracy isn't it?
    anyhoo, as i stated before, the trend for same sex marriages could brush off on conservative cultures that practice arranged marriages, so long as they "get with the times"

    also shouldnt the turkish and greek governments institute a policy of arranging same sex marriages between their populations to curb the rising tensions and violence?i only say those two because there's a time honoured traditiona of buggery between the two.

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    same sex arranged marriage? oh i pity those that will go through tat
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    " If same sex marriages were allowed, would we start seeing cultures moving towards arranged same sex marriages where arranged marriages are the norm (say India or the middle east)?"

    Exarch,

    Aye, and at what point will it be decided that the children of such a thing are homosexual?

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    While you won't see arranged same sex marriages for a number of practice reasons long before you even have to think about traditional ones, I do know a couple where he is gay and she is a lesbian and they were married by an arranged marriage.

    A very very odd couple in many ways, but it works for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    Aye, and at what point will it be decided that the children of such a thing are homosexual?
    The same way it is decided that children are decided to be heterosexual: it isn't, it's forced upon them. But that's what marriage means in some parts of the world: enforced, loveless political and social maneuvers.
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    Well, arranged marriages are not... fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    " If same sex marriages were allowed, would we start seeing cultures moving towards arranged same sex marriages where arranged marriages are the norm (say India or the middle east)?"

    Exarch,

    Aye, and at what point will it be decided that the children of such a thing are homosexual?
    ah, are you saying children in such a marriage may be brought up to be homosexual? whilst children may be influenced by their parents, i think something as visceral and strong as sexual attraction will overcome whatever conditioning their parents put on them; after all how does that explain homosexuality
    (unless of course, some subscribe to the genetic argument)

    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    While you won't see arranged same sex marriages for a number of practice reasons long before you even have to think about traditional ones, I do know a couple where he is gay and she is a lesbian and they were married by an arranged marriage.

    A very very odd couple in many ways, but it works for them.
    ah a boston marriage; did the marriage produce kids?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Arranged marriages are typically about a family alliance and preserving the family line. You can get the alliance, but you can't preserve the family line. Typically anyway, as Phier points out a rather interesting exception above(granted its not same-sex marriage, but the relative oddity is there).
    aye, and since arranged marriages are first and foremost about alliances and inheritance, would it not make sense to increase one's options by having same sex arranged marriages? As for children, i'm sure one or both could produce bastards during their "confused" moments


    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Well, arranged marriages are not... fun.
    arranged marriages aren't supposed to be fun...except to the onlookers

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