RTRVII Feature Highlight: Unique Units

**Visarion** · September 20, 2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by ^OvO^

From the Greek preview for Spartan. You'll have to scroll down a bit.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=391550

oh yes you're right!

just bought a new giant monitor so I can lead the army to warrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

didn't solve my eye problems though!

oh well!

**debux** · September 18, 2011, 07:29 PM

I found rather strange that one can recruit Asian Elephants in the little town just south of Pella, when playing as the Antigonids. I considered recruiting them, when I saw that they weren't that expensive (in proportion with how much money you start with), but then I noticed that it took 50 turns to recruit them. I remembered that this thing of imposing lengthy recruitment times was mentioned here, but I see that the elephants aren't listed.

Now my question is, why can one recruit elephants there? Because when you start, the latter town has just enough people to recruit the elephants (424 inhabitants), but since it takes 50 turn to recruit, it doesn't make much sense to recruit them. Then I thought that it was to retrain elephants after a big battle, but then I saw all my armies, and there were no elephants in any of them.

So is it intentional to be able to recruit Asian Elephants in this town, considering that it has an affordable price and just the necessary population to recruit them? And if it is, then why does it take to long to recruit, and it isn't considered elite?

Sorry if my post is confusing (I spent like 15 minutes trying to make it more structured), but I found rather paradoxical the situation I just mentioned...

**AngryTitusPullo** · September 19, 2011, 02:45 AM

I think the answers are in the descriptions.

**Iguanaonastick** · September 19, 2011, 01:30 PM

It takes so long because elephants breed slowly. That's what the town has, an elephant herd you can use to breed a unit of elephants for war.

If you want elephants fast you can hire them as mercenaries... but be prepared to pay.

I haven't hired any yet, but maybe you can retrain merc elephants in that settlement? It depends on whether they're the same unit in the EDU...

Anyway, even if it does take ages training them the hard way isn't that bad. Sure, you have to wait, but it's not as if you wanted to recruit anything else in that minor settlement.

**need help** · September 20, 2011, 09:58 PM

Hmm...i am plating as sparta and i have conquerred 60 regions and i havent got a single extra unit of spartan hoplites or skritariai

**Heinz Guderian** · September 21, 2011, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by need help

Hmm...i am plating as sparta and i have conquerred 60 regions and i havent got a single extra unit of spartan hoplites or skritariai

this happened to me on my first playthrough, but i had modded it slightly myself. After a reinstall it sorted it out. Have you modified the game at all? Have you made sure you enabled the script?

**~~Tony83~~** · September 21, 2011, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by need help

Hmm...i am plating as sparta and i have conquerred 60 regions and i havent got a single extra unit of spartan hoplites or skritariai

As Heinz said, have you modified the game in any way, or been running without the script. In testing we've had no problems with this!

**need help** · September 22, 2011, 10:43 PM

I have not modded rtr at all and my brother did get the spartan hoplites and he played from same rtr on the same pc :o

**AngryTitusPullo** · September 23, 2011, 12:45 AM

You probably forgot to reactivate script.

**Iskandar** · September 26, 2011, 06:48 AM

Quick question - do the Gesatae from FOE make an appearance in VII, and if so, in which faction; as a regular, AOR or mercenary unit, etc.

**Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze** · September 26, 2011, 11:32 AM

They do. AOR in Lugdunum. Perhaps a few other regions as well; I don't know precisely

**Megas Antiviros <3 Gaesatae :p** · October 09, 2011, 11:24 AM

my opinion is that the spartan units should not be spawned as a pair because that is not very realistic maybe you can spawn them like this:
25 regions -> Spartiate Hoplites
33 regions -> Skiritai
48 regions -> Spartiate Hoplites
69 regions -> Skiritai

...or maybe you can make these units smaller... and spawn them like this:
21 regions -> Spartiate Hoplites
25 regions -> Skiritai
27 regions -> Spartiate Hoplites
32 regions -> Skiritai
43 regions -> Spartiate Hoplites
48 regions -> Skiritai
54 regions -> Spartiate Hoplites
69 regions -> Skiritai

**Valerius** · October 26, 2011, 12:10 PM

37 regions and no more elites for me either

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**ellis_simpson** · June 01, 2013, 04:11 PM

for anyone wanting a large amount of spartiates, it is possible to add them into sparta and any armies you start with from within the files, cant remember at this exact time but it includes all settlement info and troops in settlements, yes it gives you a huge advantage and its slightly unfair on that poor AI but it is hell of alot of fun! have fun conquering the ancient world with your new elite army of spartiates!!!

**Crymson** · June 01, 2013, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by ellis_simpson

for anyone wanting a large amount of spartiates, it is possible to add them into sparta and any armies you start with from within the files, cant remember at this exact time but it includes all settlement info and troops in settlements, yes it gives you a huge advantage and its slightly unfair on that poor AI but it is hell of alot of fun! have fun conquering the ancient world with your new elite army of spartiates!!!

With your general bodyguards units, you already do have an army of Spartiates. That's what makes Sparta so overpowered.