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    Several moderators disagreed with you back then and you better accept that, cutting the nationalist stuff, since I'd seriously doubt anyone wishes such a discussion to ruin this wonderful thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthćus View Post
    there are a few candidates: Lombards, Franks or maybe Kiev.
    HRE and tagmatic Byz are close too
    Yes, my personal favourite are the Lombards, even though Koultouras does not like them too much
    Kiev will also be nice, probably the coolest infantry ever.
    Franks won't be that great, but that's what the HRE is for ...which unfortunatly will take some time still.
    Last edited by FliegerAD; September 03, 2011 at 09:09 PM.
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    Maybe its just me. You see I bnelieve in freedom of speeech. Actual freedom of spreech. I guess you hadnt heard abput black humor? specialy that about WWII?


    and its a part of our history as well

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    Default Re: [Preview] Duchy of Croatia

    Quote Originally Posted by FliegerAD View Post

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    Yes, my personal favourite are the Lombards, even though Koultouras does not like them too much
    Kiev will also be nice, probably the coolest infantry ever.
    Franks won't be that great, but that's what the HRE is for ...which unfortunatly will take some time still.
    actually i really like them....
    but u see when historical evidence are scarce about the faction u are making
    u tend to hate them cause all u do is

    "-is this acurate?"
    "-Not probably"
    "-arghh...ok i will go edit them again"
    "-is this accurate?"
    "-Nah...."
    "-Argh...."
    "-Is this?"
    "-Nah..."
    "-Argh..."
    and so on
    actually since u my friend FLAD joined
    lombards got more clear as for what should they be...
    so i owe u a thanks cause otherwise....
    i would have double-triple or even quadrople edited my models....
    thank god we found enough evidence and research stuff.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by koultouras View Post
    actually i really like them....
    but u see when historical evidence are scarce about the faction u are making
    u tend to hate them cause all u do is

    "-is this acurate?"
    "-Not probably"
    "-arghh...ok i will go edit them again"
    "-is this accurate?"
    "-Nah...."
    "-Argh...."
    "-Is this?"
    "-Nah..."
    "-Argh..."
    and so on
    actually since u my friend FLAD joined
    lombards got more clear as for what should they be...
    so i owe u a thanks cause otherwise....
    i would have double-triple or even quadrople edited my models....
    thank god we found enough evidence and research stuff.....
    yeah, lombards were most complicated faction we ever did.
    because we did not know almost anything about them. the most difficult faction for research that i know of.
    seeing their preview will be an immense satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pope Gregorius I View Post
    oh and i am a quarter Luthuanian, but since they are pagan in the TW series not much incentive to play as them...)
    There are some mods who feature them in their Christian period, I think, though I just love them in the Pagan one. Too bad we can't even dream of a mod as detailed as TGC reaching all the way there (and to Iceland, as our Croatian members seem to want as well ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikeBG View Post
    Too bad we can't even dream of a mod as detailed as TGC reaching all the way there (and to Iceland, as our Croatian members seem to want as well ).
    Why stop at Iceland, Mars is our destination

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    It might be difficult finding accurate information on a Marsian unit roster though...
    Someone working at NASA?


    @ koultouras,

    I understand better now! Looks like we will all be happy with the Lombard preview then. And thanks for your compliments, even if most of my research contribution was on military organisation - equipment is pretty much guess work due to the lack of proper sources. But we certainly 'guessed' probable and nicely looking units



    @ Hrobatos

    hide behind "freedom of speech" and "black humor" all day long (that is so novel for nationalists...). It was considered offensive by mods, while I personally consider it plain stupid when talking about a 10th century warrior.
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    Well, I hate to be the one who asks this question... again, but I just want to clear this up.

    Croatia will for the entire campaign be a Duchy? It's been made very clear to me by absinthia that changing the name is not an option because it requires another faction slot. So I guess if you've completed the croatian faction completely you must've made a decision on this...

    There will be no event or anything, Croatia will simply be a Duchy the entire campaign?
    I suppose there is an option with the faction leader's trait, to simply change it to king.

    Anyway I'd just like to know if you've made a decision on this and if you have what is it?

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    Its to early to deside such a change.
    It would be enough the faction's name and the leader's title via an event.
    All the rest of changes will be in the units.
    We must proceed with the allready desided actions. Then we will deside further changes.
    TGC in order to continue its development seak one or more desicated scripters to put our campaign scripts mess to an order plus to create new events and create the finall missing factions recruitment system. In return TGC will give permision to those that will help to use its material stepe by step. The result will be a fully released TGC plus many mods that will benefit TGC's material.
    Despite the mod is dead does not mean that anyone can use its material
    read this to avoid misunderstandings.

    IWTE tool master and world txt one like this, needed inorder to release TGC 1.0 official to help TWC to survive.
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    you basically answered the question for yourself.
    if we wont manage to change name (using additional faction slot is out of the question), then it will remain a duchy. however we can improvise something with traits.

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    i think that there should be a way to change the rang of the faction and ruler title without the need to have a slot .It will be really strange if after 925 Croatia is still a Duchy ...




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    well I did pointed out that its was called "regnum" prior of 925. only its rulers were called usualy "dux or principes or even rex", after 925. they are constantly called "rex" in all sources


    so perhaps faction could be Kingdom all along, but after certain even title of ruler could be changed from Dux to King... I think absinthia said this is possible
    but I am no coder, I dont know what exactly can be done...

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    Really nice work!

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    Man, I cannot stop watching this preview - I wont them now!!!!!

    P.S. Nema 2H sjekiraša ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matija191 View Post
    Man, I cannot stop watching this preview - I wont them now!!!!!

    P.S. Nema 2H sjekiraša ?
    Haha, Croat Axemen, Medieval 2: Total Fail

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    well matija, neither mattheus nor I ever really believed in presence of 2H axemen among Croats...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrobatos View Post
    well matija, neither mattheus nor I ever really believed in presence of 2H axemen among Croats...
    It was sarcasm from matija, nothing else

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    oh no, it definetly wasnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrobatos View Post
    well matija, neither mattheus nor I ever really believed in presence of 2H axemen among Croats...
    I knew it!




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    Quote Originally Posted by FliegerAD View Post
    It might be difficult finding accurate information on a Marsian unit roster though...
    Someone working at NASA?
    Well, how about: Little green men, Average green men, Big green men, Mounted green men and their special unit - the Royal green men?

    Btw, Bulgaria also needs a change of rank during the game (913/927), from principality (knyazhestvo) to empire (tsarstvo), so that problem would have to remain in general, even if a work-around is found for Croatia.

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