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    Default Where are the flags ?

    I want to ask where are the flags /banners over the city and how to enable them ? It is really difficult to play without them .I don't know where my armies are and how much soldiers I have in them .I dont have movie intros .The campaign just starts.

    Also, is it normal for the triarii to run after being rushed by saminites .The whole army colapsed after 15 sec of fighting total .The triatii didn't take that much casualties but their moral dropped in an instant .

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    Default Re: Where are the flags ?

    The banners has been removed for realism and gameplay, make sure you use spies to scout ahead before you attack! A nice way to get an overview of your own troops is to rigth-click the "Army"-tab in the campaignmap, just above the window were your troops are seen

    To see the intro movie, make sure you remove the -nm switch from the launcher, and follow the instructions on how to add the RTR-intro instead of the BI one

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    That not realism that is annoyance. Tell me how to re enable them please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|4|DarthLazy View Post
    That not realism that is annoyance. Tell me how to re enable them please.
    Try forcing yourself to play without banners for a week or so. You'll like it eventually. I felt the same way when it was first implemented

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|4|DarthLazy View Post
    That not realism that is annoyance. Tell me how to re enable them please.
    How can I make to enable banners in the city and to see how many units are in an army?
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    About routing Romans: if you are playing as the Romans with the Roman Leadership System, putting an unqualified family member in charge of your army will hurt morale badly. How badly? You'll be better off not having any leader at all than an unqualified one. There is a stickied feature highlight that explains the rules of the Leadership system. You can also opt to disable it alltogether in the launcher.
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    I I don't know how to do it, but I'll find someone who does

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    Just give us an option for banners as well as an option for automerge in the future launcher. Everybody will be happy this way!

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    The problem is that our banners have been integrated in the campaign map characters' models. When we'd enable banners every figure would have two of them. We decided to do this because of two reasons which increase realism and imo gameplay:

    • Make the settlements and map look cleaner and (even) more pleasant to the eye.

    • Like this it's more of a challenge to play the game: you will have to use spies and are able to be surprised by the AI, which adds much to the game. Also remember that ancient generals did have these difficulties as well, which is another reason why we tried to create this feeling.


    Of course I don't say that you should agree with me, it's just that you should give it a chance and will probably like it very much after a while.

    The automerge function will indeed become optional when we release the next patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurits View Post
    The problem is that our banners have been integrated in the campaign map characters' models. When we'd enable banners every figure would have two of them. We decided to do this because of two reasons which increase realism and imo gameplay:

    • Make the settlements and map look cleaner and (even) more pleasant to the eye.


    • Like this it's more of a challenge to play the game: you will have to use spies and are able to be surprised by the AI, which adds much to the game. Also remember that ancient generals did have these difficulties as well, which is another reason why we tried to create this feeling.


    Of course I don't say that you should agree with me, it's just that you should give it a chance and will probably like it very much after a while.

    The automerge function will indeed become optional when we release the next patch.
    I don't know to me it is kind of annoying.I playing as the spartans and I get confused which league holds which settlement .I think one is dark yellow and the other light or something or maybe they are rebels.

    Could you guys make some optional patch to add the flags .

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    Default Re: Where are the flags ?

    The problem is that our banners have been integrated in the campaign map characters' models. When we'd enable banners every figure would have two of them. We decided to do this because of two reasons which increase realism and imo gameplay:

    • Make the settlements and map look cleaner and (even) more pleasant to the eye.


    • Like this it's more of a challenge to play the game: you will have to use spies and are able to be surprised by the AI, which adds much to the game. Also remember that ancient generals did have these difficulties as well, which is another reason why we tried to create this feeling.


    Of course I don't say that you should agree with me, it's just that you should give it a chance and will probably like it very much after a while.

    The automerge function will indeed become optional when we release the next patch.
    Ι agree! Leave the map guys as it is now!! I love this map!

    Btw, how can add the RTR intro?
    Last edited by Alkimachos; September 02, 2011 at 09:08 AM.

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    Taken from the Installation info thread:

    In order to activate the RTR main intro movie, go to RTW/RTRVII/Data/fmv and copy the 'RTRVII_intro'. Then go to RTW/BI/Data/fmv and paste the RTR intro into that map. Finally, delete the BI intro and then rename the RTR intro, calling it 'BI_Intro_640x480'. When you now launch the game, you'll see the RTR main intro appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molls View Post
    Just give us an option for banners as well as an option for automerge in the future launcher. Everybody will be happy this way!
    It's not an unreasonable request, but as Maurits says it could be more complicated than you'd expect in practice. We'll look into it.
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    Actually I really don't mind the campaign map not having banners.
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    I aprove this change.

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    @ Fresco

    Why do you need banners to see how many units there are in an army? All you have to do is double click on an army or settlement and you can see as per normal, all that is missing is the assessment of strength that the banners give, which is terribly unhistoric for the rudimentary intelligence gathering of the day anyway.

    The banners could be switched back on but then every army on the map would have an extra banner and our lovely new ship models extra ugly masts making them look awful. Try it for a week or so, you'll be surprised how quickly you'll be able to compensate for the change.

    Yes, having less easily accessed information on your opponents can make you a little paranoid and, if your careless and take you eye off the ball, thw AI will spring some nasty surprises on you, even on M/M. Isn't that refreshing, who'd have thought that the good old RTW AI would be able to pull a fast one on you?

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    Sorry which i repeat this again... but... The team did great job! And all this thing with the flags is not at all annoying! I like it very much!
    But, maybe is good to add an option in the installer next time about this, RTR team... For the people who don't like this (not for me.. i love it!)

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    Default Re: Where are the flags ?

    I think the map looks nice and clean without the banners.

    @killer98: it can be confusing sometimes, especially if you are not that familiar with the names like me, but i use a couple of diplomats to go out and pay for map information to "colour the map in". And then when you mouse over the region on the mini map, it will tell you who owns what area.




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    I miss the banners over the the cities - it's enough guessing on campaign map already. Please do not let us search for the cities as well.

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    I cant find the replay feature for some reason .Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or something.

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