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    Default New Bill: Curial Warning

    Curial Warning

    A Curial Warning is an action of the Body of Civitates that shall be used against Civitates who perform action that, while unbecoming of Civitates, are not quite worthy of Ostracization. A majority vote of Civitates will be required to perform this action. If a majority of Civitates vote to perform this action against a Civitate, the pro-Curator will send a PM to the offendor. The PM will include three items:
    1.) It will inform the offendor that his actions are not Civitate-Worthy
    2.) It will detail the specific actions that have made him worthy of a Curial Warning.
    3.) It will offer advice on how to improve his actions.

    If the PM is ignored there shall be no direct consequence, but ignoring a Curial Warning can be considered a cause for Ostracization and can be used as evidence for why an Ostracization is neccessary.
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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    Curial Warning

    A Curial Warning is an action of the CVRIA that shall be used against Civitates who behave in a manner that, while unbecoming of Civitates, does not warrant an Ostrakon. If a majority of Civitates vote to perform this action against a Civitate, the pro-Curator will send a PM to the offender. The PM will include three items:

    1.) It will inform the offender that his actions are not Civitate-Worthy.
    2.) It will detail the specific actions that have made him worthy of a Curial Warning.
    3.) It will offer advice on how to improve his demeanor.

    The Curial Warning bears no direct consequences, but ignoring a Curial Warning can be considered a cause for Ostrakon and can be used as evidence for the reasons an Ostrakon is neccessary.
    Minor changes. I support.
    Last edited by Garbarsardar; April 06, 2006 at 02:44 PM.

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    As do I.

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    I'll support the changes
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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    I support this!

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    It seems reasonable. I'd support it.
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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    I do not like the last line, basically. It is a) too harsh and b) not a strong cause for Ostrakon, even as evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeakus Maximus
    I do not like the last line, basically. It is a) too harsh and b) not a strong cause for Ostrakon, even as evidence.
    What it means is that by ignoring this it shows that you acted wrongly, was told so and given advice on how to deal with the problem, but you ignored the correction and committed the act again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    Curial Warning

    A Curial Warning is an action of the CVRIA that shall be used against Civitates who behave in a manner that, while unbecoming of Civitates, does not warrant an Ostrakon. If a majority of Civitates vote to perform this action against a Civitate, the pro-Curator will send a PM to the offender. The PM will include three items:

    1.) It will inform the offender that his actions are not Civitate-Worthy.
    2.) It will detail the specific actions that have made him worthy of a Curial Warning.
    3.) It will offer advice on how to improve his demeanor.

    The Curial Warning bears no direct consequences, but ignoring a Curial Warning can be considered a cause for Ostrakon and can be used as supplementary evidence for the reasons an Ostrakon is neccessary.
    How about this?

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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    I imagne SM thought you meant if he actually didn't reply to the PM or something, whereas I presume you meant carry on on the same path without recourse from it.

    I support this, as an addition to Ostrakon. However, it should only be used as a pre-cursor to a possible Ostrakon, and not as anything which influenced the warning system or anything which the staff currently has preogative (sp?) over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    What it means is that by ignoring this it shows that you acted wrongly, was told so and given advice on how to deal with the problem, but you ignored the correction and committed the act again.
    So basically if you repeat the offence you are counted as ignoring it, right? That works fine.

    TBN, you are right, that is what I thought it meant... and I agree with your points.

    Garb, repeat offences can be cause for ostrakon, not ignoring it. Lets make that obvious shall we?

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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    Curial Warning

    A Curial Warning is an action of the CVRIA that shall be used against Civitates who behave in a manner that, while unbecoming of Civitates, does not warrant an Ostrakon. If a majority of Civitates vote to perform this action against a Civitate, the pro-Curator will send a PM to the offender. The PM will include three items:

    1.) It will inform the offender that his actions are not Civitate-Worthy.
    2.) It will detail the specific actions that have made him worthy of a Curial Warning.
    3.) It will offer advice on how to improve his demeanor.

    The Curial Warning bears no direct consequences, but repeating the offence(s) described in the Curial Warning can be considered a cause for Ostrakon and can be used as supplementary evidence for the reasons an Ostrakon is neccessary.
    How about this?
    Last edited by Garbarsardar; April 06, 2006 at 03:13 PM.

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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    Despite sharing a common name, it has nothing to do with a staff warning. I word use Cencorship as the name, but then it could be confused with us wanting to silence someone's opinion.
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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    i support garb's changes

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    I like this, I've been waiting for something like this to be proposed, so I support.

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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    Replace Pro-Curator with Syntagma Curator. The Pro-Curator position isn't a requirement (Justinian can remove me at any time and assume the duties himself if he so wishes). Presuming this passes; Justinian will tell me whether he wishes to delegate this new responsibility or not and I will act accordingly.

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    I get the feeling that we will have about 100 of these Warnings a day.
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius Vorenus
    I get the feeling that we will have about 100 of these Warnings a day.

    I thought so too, but then I guess I realized that it actually takes effort for people to go through with this, the 'frivolous' rule should still applly, and I think what we'll see is this being not too common in the end. It still takes considerable effort and determination to form a curial warning, not as much as an ostrakon, but still you have to have numerous good reasons, you gotta make a thread, you gotta let other people get their 2 cents in...etc...

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    Default Re: New Bill: Curial Warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    Curial Warning

    A Curial Warning is an action of the CVRIA that shall be used against Civitates who behave in a manner that, while unbecoming of Civitates, does not warrant an Ostrakon. If a majority of Civitates vote to perform this action against a Civitate, the Syntagma Curator will send a PM to the offender. The PM will include three items:

    1.) It will inform the offender that his actions are not Civitate-Worthy.
    2.) It will detail the specific actions that have made him worthy of a Curial Warning.
    3.) It will offer advice on how to improve his demeanor.

    The Curial Warning bears no direct consequences, but repeating the offence(s) described in the Curial Warning can be considered a cause for Ostrakon and can be used as supplementary evidence for the reasons an Ostrakon is neccessary.
    How about this?

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    Can you mention the "frivolous" thing in there too? I know it should be obvious, but maybe stating that frivolous use of the curial warning system could be subject to an ostrakon/curial warning of the offending person? That way Crandar-like incidents could be more easily avoided.

    edit-Or "Asterix posing as Crandar like incidents"

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