HCS - Feedback and wishlist for the next release

[I-Alexander-I]

- Feedback and wishlist for the next release -

The Hegemonia mod team strives to constantly improve and update the standard and professionalism of the mod, however we need to know your impressions of the mod to help us keep improving.

We are extremely interested to know exactly what you think of the mod and would like for you to be as honest as possible. We would like to know what you would change, what you would like to see in the next release or even if the mod does not live up to your expectations and why.

This is the thread for you to voice your opinion to the mod team and to help us continue improving.

[Irishguy]

1. I'd make every region on Cyprus rebel to a different City-State (currently only Salamis rebels to Athens) I think this would add allot of fun to the game (not really historically accurate I know)
2. A lot of game balancing to Persia, they have huge problems with rebellion and aren't the strong dangerous beast they should be.
3. Make Carthage a lot stronger
4. Create a background script to stop Sparta from getting overpowered.
5. Game balancing on the Peloponnese, Argos dies within the first few turns, and so does the Boeotian League.

[Constantius]

1. I'd make every region on Cyprus rebel to a different City-State (currently only Salamis rebels to Athens) I think this would add allot of fun to the game (not really historically accurate I know)
2. A lot of game balancing to Persia, they have huge problems with rebellion and aren't the strong dangerous beast they should be.
3. Make Carthage a lot stronger
4. Create a background script to stop Sparta from getting overpowered.
5. Game balancing on the Peloponnese, Argos dies within the first few turns, and so does the Boeotian League.

All that, plus Persian invasion script, Peloponnesian war scripts. Perhaps some historic messages (as in EB) I'd be happy to write them if someone could implement them

[Bainezy]

All that, plus Persian invasion script, Peloponnesian war scripts. Perhaps some historic messages (as in EB) I'd be happy to write them if someone could implement them

that would be epic when done

[Irishguy]

I wouldn't mind implementing them!

[Constantius]

I wouldn't mind implementing them!

Just to clarify, I mean the historic events. A yearly news flash on whats happened across the known world

[Irishguy]

jep I know

[Constantius]

Ok then I start straight away, better go and discuss in workshop

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Carthage needs those 1337 citadels.

[Father Jack]

Balancing battles. The battles are over far too quickly, the units movement speeds are too much, the hoplite animations (and spears - apart from the generals spear) are pretty awful too which leads to units crunching together resulting in a pretty un-tactical and quick battle.

[TaiwaneseNinja]

Ethnic system (like in EB)

[Post Hoc]

Change battles completely. I like the campaign map and the campaign gameplay however, the battles in this mod are terrible. Me and my brother saw this mod and decided to check it out since it is something uncommon (peloponnesian). After fighting battles i would drop down the raiting from an A to a D.

There are numerous problems with the battles:

- Hopilites run way to fast. they are heavily armoured and not olympic runners.
- Units seem to rout or break very quickly
- Units die way to fast
- Battles last about 5 minutes
- Skirmishers are never able to skirmish

These are just some of the things i can think of off the top of my head. The campagn map is superb. I really like the campaign which is why i would rate it as an A. The battles would be a F.

Please fix the battle and make an update as soon as possible. I would be indebted to you all because i think this has the potential to be the equivalent of EB

[Samilou]

There are numerous problems with the battles:

- Hopilites run way to fast. they are heavily armoured and not olympic runners.
- Units seem to rout or break very quickly
- Units die way to fast
- Battles last about 5 minutes
- Skirmishers are never able to skirmish

I would say that units SHOULD rout quickly. It is the best way to limit casualties in battles so that they become closer to historically plausible figures, if only they didn't die so incredibly easily while routing. But if units would be vastly more difficult to kill, I think it can justify a moderately decreased risk of routing. Normal casualty rates in classical hoplite battles ranged between an average of 5 (victors) and 15 (losing side) percent per side, complete annihilations of any side were a rarity, especially between Greeks. I wonder if it is possible to implement organized retreats for the battle AI? Or possibly some form of script that prevents some units from chasing enemy units of specific types? Skirmishers work fine for me, although they sometimes have issues as they withdraw just before they are in firing range, thus having difficulties ever getting into firing range.

[Post Hoc]

I would say that units SHOULD rout quickly. It is the best way to limit casualties in battles so that they become closer to historically plausible figures,.

Units shouldnt route on first impact. ive fought a battle were i had 1,800 and the enemy 900. the battle from first contact of hopilites lasted 10 seconds. They units seem to runaway after 5 seconds of compact. im sorry but that is ridiculous. Battles last no longer than 1 minute. Another example is that i fought a battle were i had no casualties and the enemy had 350. Units should not route quickly just to have stats historicly plausible. The best way to limit casualties would be to have units not route or die rapidly. By the way i dont know how anyone could loose a single battle. i would suggest mimicking EB. This mod would be great if battles were longer and more challenging. Battles should last at least 10 minutes. Units should route when casualties, stanima, and morale reaches critical levels. My average battle casualties are like 1 me and 50 enemy with me usually wiping out whole armys.

[Thuycidides]

Balancing battles. The battles are over far too quickly, the units movement speeds are too much, the hoplite animations (and spears - apart from the generals spear) are pretty awful too which leads to units crunching together resulting in a pretty un-tactical and quick battle.

This deserves emphasis. I've done some custom battles just to experiment, and the opposing hoplite formations always mesh together in a confusing mass.

I also left one side in guard-mode to see what would happen. They got their asses kicked by the AI, which attacked with a statistically weaker unit. So the way the units push forward straight through the enemy formation should hopefully be addressed.

[jukeness]

Yeah I don't like that units die so quickly, thats not realistic. heavily armored units should take a very long time to kill, their shouldn't be deaths every 2 seconds.

[Alkimachos]

More Historical Evets please!!!!

[Penguininrage18]

I have one important thing that will increase atmospere of the mod.Make Standart Bearers and Officers.

[Constantius]

I have one important thing that will increase atmospere of the mod.Make Standart Bearers and Officers.

flute players

[Starlightman]

I would like to see Chuck beating the damn Spartans...who's idea was make them so strong?

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can they?