Vanilla RTW 1.5 Succession Campaign --> Game 1

[NobleNick]

Hi folks,

Well the first succession campaign I've witnessed in my very short tenure here at the forums is over, and the next one is gearing up; both thanks to the efforts of Aetius.

While both of these campaigns are excellent endeavors, there is a niche market that I want to address: those who (like myself) want to play succession in Vanilla 1.5 RTW. This is not a effort to pull people away from any other succession campaign. (In fact, I am on the list to play the TE succession campaign that is about to get underway.) Rather, it is an offering for those who enjoy 1.5, including those for whom it is "Vanilla 1.5 or nothing at all." (Flogger, I am thinking of you.)

Those for whom Vanilla 1.5 is not their first choice, but are 9th or so on the list to play their favorite succession campaign, might also consider playing this while they wait for their turn.

After some more research and reflection, here is my suggestion for the campaign (all are open for revision, except as marked) :

Version: (non-negotiable item) Saved games must be playable by Vanilla 1.5 RTW.
Faction: Carthage.
Difficulty: VH/H.
Unit size: Large (or the next step up from Large)
Starting player: Open.

I have some school work to complete (studying for a final exam); so can not start any game until Friday, April 14. This, along with a computer blow-out repleat with smoke and flames and a particularly slow-going solo RTW campaign, are the main reasons why I am **STILL** talking about a succession campaign instead of actually doing one.

Here is what will happen: I will give a few days for discussion of game conditions and add anyone who wishes to the player's list. If no discussion, I will start the above campaign after April 14. If there is discussion and a concensus to alter the starting conditions, I will start the altered game after the 14th. If there is discussion and a volunteer to start the game before the 14th, then we can do that, too: I have no burn to be the first player.

If you wish to join, please state explicitly, "Add me to the list of players," or something equally unambiguous. If you wish to be the first player, state that, too (first come = first served).

Current player list:

1.) (open. Alternate = NobleNick)
2.) NobleNick

Thank you.

[Flogger]

Carthage again? I remember the first succession campaign. It ended in tears.

Don't add me to the list yet though - I just installed a heap of skins and mods etc. which make my game vanilla uncompatible.

[removeduser_426582376423734]

I might come in, after the other succession campaign. Leave a space for me, ok?

[Severous]

Hello NobleNick

I am a RTW V1.5 player. No mods whatsoever.

I feel I know enough about the game now to participate in a community game. Ive not read up on what a succession game is. Is it a swap game?

I play slow. Play on Large scale. Play on H/H.

I dont care on choice of faction, difficulty etc. Just be vanilla and you can count me in on contributing to a swap game.

[Hannibal Barca]

you can count me in, haven't played carthage for a while and it was one of my favourite vanilla games

[Favre]

As long as i can get in on this one before my turn on the next succession campaign, ill play.

[Hannibal Barca]

I dont mind starting this. If you tell me exactly what settings to use (including the lesser ones in preferences.txt) i'll get this going a.s.a.p

[roman_crusader]

i might play, but i don't really have time until may...
and i've never really played higher than H/H....
and i dunno how to update....

[NobleNick]

i might play, but i don't really have time until may...
and i've never really played higher than H/H....
and i dunno how to update....

I don't have time until mid-April. If we put you in now, It probably won't get to you until May. Otherwise we can bump/skip you until you are ready.

I haven't played higher than H/H either. The battles, on HARD, will be the same as you are used to. The VH difficulty for campaign is to add some "pucker factor" so that this is not a cake walk. We could lose! No fun (yawn) if you know you are going to win; and I know I can win H/H. How about you?

You don't know how to update what? Update to version 1.5? Send on a saved game? Please be specific.

If you want to be added to the list, please say so.

[NobleNick]

O.K. Hannibal, you are the starter, unless you opt out of this priviledge or can't perform. Please don't start, yet: Let's give a day for discussion of game settings; and then you can have the weekend to go at it. Okay?

Game settings: We are still open to discussion; but in the absence of consensus for a change, this is the game Hannibal Barca will start, as early as late Friday afternoon:

Version: (non-negotiable) Saved games must be playable by Vanilla 1.5 RTW.
Faction: Carthage.
Difficulty: VH/H.
Unit size: Large (or the next step up from Large. Starting player chooses)
Other: No restarts or reversions to saved games (collectively called "restarts") to replay battles for better outcomes. No restarts to save generals that died (peacefully or otherwise). No restarts.

Hannibal, I will try to get the minor settings for you by tomorrow. I am out on Saturday and likely Sunday, so if I fail to get something to you tomorrow and you wish to start this weekend, feel free to use any reasonable setting. The only thing I sweat over a bit is that we don't make any choices that make the game chug on a mid-range gamer's machine.

Severous, if I understand your post correctly, you nailed it: This is a game where each person plays as long as the FACTION LEADER that they inherited when they received (or started) the game stays alive. The instant that the faction leader dies, the player must save the game and send the saved game to the next player in line.

With Hannibal starting, that would put Severous in 3rd position, after myself. Favre, if there appears to be a conflict with the other campaign, I am willing to trade slots with you. I don't know whether you are near the beginning or farther down in line in the TE campaign. Let's see how it goes.

Spartacus-Popat, I have put you in last, and we will add other players after you, we will bump you down the list so that you are never the next in line to receive the game, until you say you are ready to play.

EDIT: Swapped Favre and NN due to Favre is 3rd on Aetius' TE campaign.

Current player list:

1.) Hannibal Barca
2.) Favre
3.) Severous
4.) NobleNick
5.) Spartacus-Popat (bump down till available to play)

[NobleNick]

Roman_Crusader, Got it. Will leave you off for now.

Taze, We don't need more players, since we can just recycle those who finish their turn to the end of the list. However, those who would enjoy playing this are welcome. I interpret your post to mean that you would like to play, and have added you. Please let me know if I erred in my assumption.

Severous and Taze both brought up the subject of length of each player's possession of the game. Although it would be ideal for turnover to be LESS THAN a week per player, that could stretch a bit for long-lived faction leaders and real time interruptions. We'll cross this bridge when we get to it. Severous, I have no problem with you handing off the game before your faction leader dies... Since I am next in line, I'll finish him up for you! Please don't get suicidal with precious faction resources.

Current player list:

1.) Hannibal Barca
2.) Favre
3.) Severous
4.) NobleNick
5.) Spartacus-Popat
6.) Taze

[Severous]

Hi

That long list of preferences is a mystery to me also. It was 'vanilla' that attracted me so I assume those preferences are shades of vanilla rather than introducing mods.

I currently play on 'large'.. (80men hastati) and have the 'Grass' setting 'off'. If we play on huge can I ask that grass is 'off' for sure please.

Im assuming that when we pass the game on...its immaterial what settings the new player wants..they will continue the game with the settings already in place in the game. Is this correct ?

Looking forward to Carthage. Ive never played much against them let alone controlled them or the type of units they own.

[removeduser_426582376423734]

they will continue the game with the settings already in place in the game. Is this correct ?

Correct

[shadowarmy75]

I'm playing.

[Severous]

Great series of Heroic battles. I see at least two famous battle signs near Croton. Nice move deploying cavalry in the trees and then pouncing on the rear of the romans. I will have to try that against Scythian Horse archers in my current campaign.

[Taze]

I interpret your post to mean that you would like to play, and have added you. Please let me know if I erred in my assumption.

You are correct sir!

I'll be sure to ruin any economy that might have been built by the time it's my turn , but I can handle the battles against any AI.

[NobleNick]

Hannibal, Although not strictly in keeping with the rules, I think you did the acceptable thing. I would have been ticked if that happened to me: probably wouldn't have said anything and just started a new game.

Wow! You guys have moxie: going straight for the throat of the Romans! And the skill to pull it off, it seems. Impressive. I would have been cowering down in the SW corner of the map, dueling it out with Numidia like a true hero.

Strong Navy = GOOD.

Well, now that Favre finished, we are in a bit of a pickle. As stated before, I can not play until after this coming Friday.

Spartacus-Popat, you are up if you want to slide in ahead of Severous, OTHERWISE the list is as stated below. Favre, please wait until Spartacus_Popat posts. If no post from him by Monday night, send save game to Severous.

Current player list:

1.) Hannibal Barca (Hanno died 270BC, Hasdrubal died 253BC)
2.) Favre (Bisaltes died 235BC)
3.) Severous
4.) NobleNick
5.) Spartacus-Popat
6.) Taze
7.) shadowarmy75
8.) Hannibal Barca (2nd turn, if desired)
9.) Favre (2nd turn, if desired)

[westy159]

why did you do a massive pref.txt? Dont you understand how it works? All that needs to be the same is your unit scale and version. All of the graphial options are yours to chnage at will.

[Favre]

I'm third in line for the other campaign, so id like to start this one or go second on this one ....if possible that way i can do this one before the other ^^

[NobleNick]

I'm third in line for the other campaign, so id like to start this one or go second on this one....

List above is edited to swap you into 2nd.