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    Default The death penalty.

    What kinds of offenses should they assign the death penalty for? If at all. I believe that they should assign it very carefully and only for sexual or violent crimes or espionage.

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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    None.

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    This cant end well -_-

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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    Life sentences or greater.

    This topic has been discussed to death, though.

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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    I'm struggling to think of reasons not to kill someone in cold blood.
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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    I could be persuaded to support the death penalty being used against repeated sex offenders, especially pedophiles abusing children again and again or serial killers. Then again, locking them up for the rest of their lives would probably be better. Problem is that in my country a life sentence usually means 16 years and generally I seem remeber them being released after 12-14 years.

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    if they are too dangerous to keep alive. Which is basically never.

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    Well Pedophiles and Rapists can't really be cured since their sexuality is ed up and the society is much better without them, I also think that traitors, mass murderers should be executed.
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    If you can prove without without a shadow of a doubt that somebody has committed a crime such as murder - i.e you find them standing over the corpse holding a blood covered knife screaming i killed him, i killed him - then they can apply the death penalty.

    I can also give you the arguments that have come up in previous threads about this:

    1) The criminal may have been wrongly accused and so may be innocent. The justice system isn't perfect and mistakes are made.
    2) An eye for an eye- if you murder someone you should have your life taken away.
    3) ITs barbaric and against human rights.
    4) Some people are evil and dont deserve to live.
    5) It would free up space in the prisons.
    6) There is no point keeping somebody in prison for life - they may as well be killed.
    7) How would you like it if you were sentenced to death.
    8) THe loss of freedom is punishment enough - this is the supidest reason in my book.

    I think that's most of them for both sides of the argument. I would personally prefer them to make prisons worse and more uncomfortable like they were in the old days rather than use the death penalty. If the prisoner wants light he has to pay for candles (they would have to pay for a lot of things to try and recover the costs of their imprisonment.), they have a bucket instead of a toilet, their bed is made of concrete, their food is some form of nutrient paste, etc . The prison has to be seen as a punishment and not a comfortable place to spend a few months instead of paying rent otherwise they may as well just keep them on the straights.


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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    No reason to give rapists or murderers a life-long vacation in jail at the expenses of taxpayers.

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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    No reason to give rapists or murderers a life-long vacation in jail at the expenses of taxpayers.
    This.

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    None, the state can't punish criminals with one of the most hideous acts against humans.Killing.
    Although some crimes are intolerable and criminals inhuman, this doesn't change the value of life, they have tried to degrade.
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    Obviously the state can do whatever it wants to. Human life is hardly a scarcity. The invisible hand says that people have no inherent value, only subjective values. At some point losses must be cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    Obviously the state can do whatever it wants to. Human life is hardly a scarcity. The invisible hand says that people have no inherent value, only subjective values. At some point losses must be cut.
    a state can only do what its people want or allow it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    a state can only do what its people want or allow it to.
    The state is the people. That was my point.
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    Depends on the crime. Pedophiles or people abusing children should 100% get the death penalty. One example I can think of where there was a clear need for the death penalty was the Baby P case.

    For all those who live in the UK, you may remember the Baby P case from a few years ago. For those who don't know about this case see below.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Baby_P

    IMO the people who did this monstrous act should have been put to death, but unforchantly the death penalty does not exist in the UK. instead the people who caused this crime will spend a few years in prison (I think they have already been released but can't be 100% sure) and then be released with new identity to protect their human rights.

    Killing people in cold blood should also mean the death penalty.

    I don't think the death penalty should be used for espionage though. May I ask you Ransom Locke why you feel espionage should mean death?

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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    1) Rapists
    2) Murderers
    3) Assassins
    4) Spies
    5) POLITICIANS ( im just kidding)
    6) Those who extort money from the state
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    Why kill them if you can have your own slave-army that works for the good of society?
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    Default Re: The death penalty.

    If someone kills without right , he should be killed .

    Also :
    1) Rapists
    2) Murderers
    3) Assassins
    4) Spies
    5) POLITICIANS ( im just kidding)
    6) Those who extort money from the state
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