Somethings I need:

[dvk901]

For the new swap factions, it would be nice if someone could take some nice screen shots of their troops..specifically...so that one can be used in their menu at the start of the campaign.

[Brusilov]

I'll try and do that.

Are the units available in custom battles? I presume the units are buried in the Greek City States somewhere....

[dvk901]

Unfortunately, yes. Even a mock battle in campaign would be ok with just a close up of one of the specific factional units?

[Brusilov]

OK, the problem is that the standard battle camera does not let you get the nice angles which can be made with a custom battle replay with the movie camera. The advantage of the custom battle is you can control the units that are in the battle.

I guess the worst this needs is some changes in the export_descr_unit.txt (?) file to remove or add the 'no_custom' attrribute.....

I've had a look at the units that are available for the Free Greeks / Greek CIty States and there are many missing.

If I take the battles option from the launcher for the RS 2.2 (SVN) version will the various units still be available for the 'Free Greeks'?

If the units are already in the RS2.1 would it be easier for me to use that - I guess in 2.1 the units would be under the ownership of the Free Greeks.

Have there been any updates of the swap faction models between RS2.1 and RS 2.2 (SVN)?

[Brusilov]

Can someone let me know which folder the export_descr_unit.txt file is that is used for the custom battles can be found?

I tried changing a unit in the main data folder and also the play_one_turn and neither appeared to work.

[dvk901]

Can someone let me know which folder the export_descr_unit.txt file is that is used for the custom battles can be found?

I tried changing a unit in the main data folder and also the play_one_turn and neither appeared to work.

Custom battles use the EDU.txt in the Main Data folder....none of the other ones have any effect on the Custom Battles.
In order to have a unit show up in CB's, you'd have to remove 'no_custom' from the attribute line (if there is one).
Bear in mind only 100 units can show up in the selection UI.

[Brusilov]

Custom battles use the EDU.txt in the Main Data folder....none of the other ones have any effect on the Custom Battles.
In order to have a unit show up in CB's, you'd have to remove 'no_custom' from the attribute line (if there is one).
Bear in mind only 100 units can show up in the selection UI.

Thanks dvk901.

OK, I did change it there (main data folder) and removed the 'no_custom' attribute. I guess what is causing the units to not turn up is the 100 unit limit. I will go through the units that I don't want and add the 'no_custom' attribute.

From what I can tell the ownership of Bithynia, Bosporus, Massalia and Syracuse are all Free Greeks (for the custom battles). The Galatia are in the Free People but I'm not sure about Capua.

My intention is to have a custom battle between
Bithynia/Pergamon
Bosporus/Scythia
Massalia/Avernii
Syracuse/Rome
Galatia/Pontus
Capua/Rome - although if Capua is owned by Rome that may be a problem!

I've had a look for 'cap' in the EDU but get no entries. I know they are in the EDU in the 'Play_Capua' folder so I guess the only way to get them in action is from the campaign?

One other thing I noticed was that for Syracuse it shows that the Syracusian Somatophylakes can be recruited in the list of units in the barracks but they don't appear in the list of units that can be recruited. It was not an exhaustive check - I was going through the various factions taking note of the faction specific units.

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[Paedric]

Are you using the beta or RS2.1?

If it is 2.1, it's in data/important_stuff/single player.
If not, prey tell because it's supposed to be fixed.

[Brusilov]

dvk901: I was looking through the EDU to remove the 'no_custom' attrribute from any swap faction specifi unit.

For the entry for the Syracusian Somatophylakes they are shown as 'mercenary_unit' and also unbder the ownership of the britons/slave. Would either of these entries mean that they would be shown as being able to be recruited in the barracks but not shown in the units that could be recruited?

From the main data folder EDU:

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type syracusian somatophylakes
dictionary syracusian_somatophylakes
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier hippeis_xenophontos, 30, 0, 1
officer east_heavy_standard
mount half armoured horse
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, power_charge, mercenary_unit
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 10
stat_pri 10, 33, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 25, 0.418
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 12, 27, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, slashing, sword, 25, 0.286
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 12, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 5, 1, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground -1, -1, -5, -3
stat_mental 22, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay -180000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 0, 629, 242, 96, 131, 79
ownership britons, slave

From the Play_Syracuse EDU:

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type syracusian somatophylakes
dictionary syracusian_somatophylakes
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier hippeis_xenophontos, 30, 0, 1
officer east_heavy_standard
mount half armoured horse
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, power_charge, mercenary_unit
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square, wedge
stat_health 1, 9
stat_pri 10, 33, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25, 0.361
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 12, 27, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, slashing, sword, 25, 0.247
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 12, 12, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 5, 1, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground -1, -1, -5, -3
stat_mental 23, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 47
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 0, 827, 421, 126, 170, 122
ownership britons, slave

Edited: That did nothing in the syracuse campaign - the uinit card in the city turns to a peasant and there is not unit that can be recruited in the units......

I guess that's why I don't mod..

[dvk901]

Absolutely. I will endeavor to fix that. Dang it!

[Brusilov]

Absolutely. I will endeavor to fix that. Dang it!

Which one?

The ownership?

It may also be the problem with the Bithynia campaign (hopefully)?

[dvk901]

Yes, the ownership. I am checking all of the swap factions for anything like that. I know I checked it once...but apparently I missed some.

[Brusilov]

Bosporan vs Scythia custom battle

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I have a set of files in a rar file but it's 100Mb - because they are pngs. I've uploaded it to a free hosting site here

Let me know if this is what you wanted. I've tried to get several swap faction specific units moving together or some action shots of maybe a single unit.

[Brusilov]

Massalian vs Averni

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I've uploaded a number of images here

[dvk901]

This is great, thank you!

[Brusilov]

Syracuse vs SPQR...

Units marching

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Units attacking

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Uploaded compressed file: here

dvk901: can you confirm that you can download the files? Thanks. Always worried about some file host sites.

[Brusilov]

Bithynia vs Pergamon (no fighting though)....

Units

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Compressed archive here.

[Brusilov]

I'm having trouble finding the Galatian Axemen in the EDU for custom battles (the main data folder) - what is the entry for them? I've changed all the axemen entries I can see to ensure that they have the 'no_custom' attribute removed.

I'm going to have to remove a number of units from the Free People that are shown in custom battles in order to see them as I presume I've hit the 100 unit limit again....

[dvk901]

That's ok, I can only use one picture anyway. We can probably use these as preview pictures, so hang onto them.

[Brusilov]

Capuan forces about to fight SPQR - I gave up as I had little control over the camera....

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I've uploaded a number of screens here.

Some I remembered to turn off the UI interfaces and also the drop down box that told me reinforcements were delayed. As the screens are going to be cropped that should not be a problem.

Not very good shots really......

I've also done my best to get some Galatian shots but I can't get the Galatian Axemen into a custom battle. I'm only left with the Galatian Naked Fanatics - which may not be suitable for a screen....