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    Default Who Inspired the Scriptures?

    Theists: how can you be sure that Yahweh inspired the Scriptures? How do you know that they aren't Satanically inspired?

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    How do we know that they aren't Satanically inspired? Satanically as in referring to Satan as described in the Bible? The same Satan who is described as being opposed to God, but still be below Him in power? The one who is described as a being who want's to steal, kill, and destroy your soul? And who is generally credited for all "evil" in the world? That's how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooraan View Post
    How do we know that they aren't Satanically inspired? Satanically as in referring to Satan as described in the Bible? The same Satan who is described as being opposed to God, but still be below Him in power? The one who is described as a being who want's to steal, kill, and destroy your soul? And who is generally credited for all "evil" in the world? That's how.
    You didn't actually answer my question. How do you know that Satan didn't pose as Yahweh and inspire the writers of the New and Old Testaments?

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    You didn't actually answer my question. How do you know that Satan didn't pose as Yahweh and inspire the writers of the New and Old Testaments?
    For the very same reason I posted. Why would he pose as Yahweh and slander himself and still give Yahweh credit for everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooraan View Post
    For the very same reason I posted. Why would he pose as Yahweh and slander himself and still give Yahweh credit for everything else.
    The reasoning behind it is irrelevant; we are dealing with gods and demigods here, you can't possibly hope to comprehend their machinations, right? For the sake of the argument, though, let's say that he wanted to be crafty, and he didn't want anyone to suspect that it was him who was dictating theology.

    So how do you know it wasn't Satan that inspired our modern version of the Scripture? Give me some evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    The reasoning behind it is irrelevant; we are dealing with gods and demigods here, you can't possibly hope to comprehend their machinations, right? For the sake of the argument, though, let's say that he wanted to be crafty, and he didn't want anyone to suspect that it was him who was dictating theology.

    So how do you know it wasn't Satan that inspired our modern version of the Scripture? Give me some evidence.
    Well if we are assuming Satan had that power and we can't understand it, then how would I be able to prove or disprove it? It's kind of a ridiculous question.

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    Default Re: Who Inspired the Scriptures?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    The reasoning behind it is irrelevant; we are dealing with gods and demigods here, you can't possibly hope to comprehend their machinations, right? For the sake of the argument, though, let's say that he wanted to be crafty, and he didn't want anyone to suspect that it was him who was dictating theology.

    So how do you know it wasn't Satan that inspired our modern version of the Scripture? Give me some evidence.
    Because Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths always dictate that Satan can not be anything but evil.

    Think about it, if Satan inspired the Bible, what did he get out of it? He made himself hated and seen as something to avoid. And made God look like the goal to reach. He just made it a lot harder for himself by 'inspiring' the Bible. This is why it cannot be so

    -No reason to do it, but God does have a reason
    -Satan doesn't have the capability to good or pretend to be good according to our faith, no proof for it, but it wouldn't make sense due to the prior point.

    btw AA, can you not refer to God as Yahweh, many people have different names for him, most don't have a name at all. And as I stated in one of your previous threads, Yahweh is not a name but a noble title for God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooraan View Post
    The same Satan who is described as being opposed to God, but still be below Him in power? The one who is described as a being who want's to steal, kill, and destroy your soul? And who is generally credited for all "evil" in the world? That's how.
    Hmm, come to think of it.

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    If it is satanically inspired Satan must have been surprised by the stupidity of man. Hell, he made Yahweh a racist, sexist, jealous, genocidal maniac who killed millions upon millions of innocents while Satan made himself partly responsible for the death of 10 or so men, yet people worship Yahweh. I would be banging my head on the wall from pure exasperation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    Theists: how can you be sure that Yahweh inspired the Scriptures? How do you know that they aren't Satanically inspired?
    Easy. He wouldn´t have portrayed himself that (bad) way. And he certainly wouldn´t have helped the Israels in Egypt - and other cases. He would be too amused watching the suffering.

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    AA how do you know we're not the dream of a caterpillar?
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    Why would Satan inspire a book where he ultimately fails and is destroyed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamilleBonparte View Post
    Why would Satan inspire a book where he ultimately fails and is destroyed...
    Satan works in mysterious ways. Or it could be a cunning plot to pretend to be weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    Satan works in mysterious ways. Or it could be a cunning plot to pretend to be weak.
    I like your style.
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    I don't, but that is not what we're discussing in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cahoma View Post
    I don't, but that is not what we're discussing in this thread.
    What do you think, you are discussing then?

    What do you think makes Scriptures different from scriptures in relation to writing?
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    The thread title says: " Who Inspired the Scriptures?".
    Not " Who wrote the Scriptures?".

    And you're beginning to confuse me, because I don't think there's any difference between Scriptures and scriptures, except that one is capitalized.
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    I do not want to confuse you.

    I say inspiring in relation to scriptures means writing scriptures.

    I assume it is more or less identical because my experience tells me I do not really write without an idea of what I write.

    Ergo, inspiration (having an idea of something) may just be another word for having written anything, Scriptures or scripts or whatever.

    Who has inspired the Scriptures? The scribes themselves have inspired them when they got their inspirations by scriptures they knew.
    You can also say, the reader or the audience - in case of the Scriptures - found inspiration by reading and listing to scriptures because most writers are also readers or members of an audience.

    "Who Inspired the Scriptures?" is hence a question that makes sense if you ask "who is writing scriptures?"

    Batman without doubt does not write the Batman movie script. That's something that is rather certain.
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    Oh I see what you mean now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cahoma View Post
    Oh I see what you mean now.
    You can of course try to understand the word "inspired" somehow magical (inspiration as an phenomen that occurs in rare not entirely clear cirumstances), e.g. indicated by writing it "Inspired" which is indeed confusing and requires an explanation. One explanation can be to say, then: "Inspired" is basically the same as "inspired" and "inspired" means "having an idea of what you are writing". You can also tell a fairy-tale about Joe the Unicorn that comes at night to wisper secrets in your ear when you sleep. It's fair to say this is an explanation, too.
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