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    Default Republican paedophiles: Coincidence or trend?

    Republicans usually claim the high moral ground in issues of sexual ethics, abortion, religious practice and such. You will see down this post a rather impressive list of Republicans and republican activist who commited crimes they would furiously condemn. So is it just gross hypocrisy or is it that perverts feel more confortable under a nice thick conservative mantle?



    The Big Print

    Undercover op snares Homeland official http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-04-05-voa15.cfm

    The deputy press secretary for the US Department of Homeland Security has been arrested for using the internet to seduce someone whom he thought was a teenage girl.Brian J Doyle, 55, was arrested on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material to a minor.Doyle had a sexually explicit conversation with a computer user whom he believed was a 14-year-old girl whose profile he saw on the internet on March 14, authorities in Florida said. An undercover computer crimes detective had posed as the girl.Doyle sent the "girl" pornographic movie clips and had sexually explicit conversations via the internet, the statement said.

    During other online conversations, Doyle revealed his name, that he worked for the US Department of Homeland Security and offered his office and government issued mobile phone numbers, the sheriff's office said.Doyle also sent photos of himself to the "girl", but authorities said they were not sexually explicit.On several occasions, Doyle instructed the "girl" to perform a sexual act while thinking of him and described explicit activities he wanted to do with her, investigators said.

    The small print

    * Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

    * Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

    * Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

    * Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

    * Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for attempted rape of a juvenile.

    * Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10- year old girls.

    * Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

    * Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a juvenile.

    * Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

    * Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

    * Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.

    * Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

    * Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

    * Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.

    * Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

    * Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

    * Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

    * Republican activist Marty Glickman , was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

    * Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

    * Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

    * Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

    * Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

    * Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

    * Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

    * Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

    * Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

    * Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

    * Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

    * Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

    * Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

    * Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

    * Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

    * Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.


    Now I'm sure there is a similar list for democrats, I just doubt it will include so many anti-abortion activists...

    Sources
    http://quinnell.us/politics/family.html
    http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals
    http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/...d=oid%3A159327
    http://democracyformemphis.com/comme...id=114_0_1_0_C
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/0...r_n_17590.html
    http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/20...are-child.html
    http://scoop.agonist.org/story/2005/6/26/173123/143
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    Default Re: Republican paedophiles: Coincidence or trend?

    correlation does not imply causation?

    The lib dems in England seem to be having the monopoly on secret gay lifestyles (well a couple of incidents) at the moment or gay members but I do not think that being a lib dem makes you gay.


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    Default Re: Republican paedophiles: Coincidence or trend?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowen70
    correlation does not imply causation?

    The lib dems in England seem to be having the monopoly on secret gay lifestyles (well a couple of incidents) at the moment or gay members but I do not think that being a lib dem makes you gay.


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    I agree with this but I have to say their are elements of hypocracy within the Republican Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckerr094
    I agree with this but I have to say their are elements of hypocracy within the Republican Party.
    Every politician is hypocritical which is why politics should not revolve around ad hominem attacks so much and concentrate on the arguements not the person.

    TBP: That may be true I was just picking a random example to illustrate my point.

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    i like this one the best

    * Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

    traditional values christian preacher, oral sex with a boy??? LOL

    i bet however, that you could find an equally long list of democratic party members convicted of paedophilic offences so i would hardly say this list is conclusive...

    as for england, i thikn there are more openly gay labour MPs than there are lib dem...

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    Theres some disturbing stuff in that list. How do they find out about those things though? Like the child abuse and owning child porn on their pcs and stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westy159
    Theres some disturbing stuff in that list. How do they find out about those things though? Like the child abuse and owning child porn on their pcs and stuff?
    Pedophiles arent a smart bunch, look at the NASA guy who also got nailed this week he kept child porn on his computer at work. Most these clowns seem to get caught thru online stuff, hitting up 'kids' in chatrooms, instant messenging etc who end up not being kids but cops. Check out http://www.perverted-justice.com/ these guys go around pretending to be kids to lure these nutcases they then usually attempt to meet them and photograph them and post their pic online and report them to the police. NBC's Dateline did a show on it, one guy agreed to meet a teenage girl at her house after talking to her briefly he showed up and was greeted by NBC cameras he swore he'd never do it again and left. Next dau they attempt to lure again and a guy agrees to meet a young boy who shows up? The very same guy who did the previous day.

    The scary thing to me is how much these sick perverts got away with before the internet which made it so much easier for them to find their crap but so much easier to catch them too it seems. Our politicans sit on their ass too much though with the ease of child porn on the net, bloggist Michelle Malkin did a column last year about how much of this stuff is on p2p networks showing screenshots full of p2p file listings of this stuff.

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    Well, interestingly enough, surveys have found that of a test group shown homosexual pornography, the men who were most likely to be sexually aroused were the ones who had expressed the most homophobic views. Now I don't know if all conservative politics can be reduced to a massive case of self-hating denial, but I'm sure that there are times when it is possible. Of course you will probably find a large number on the liberal wing of American politics who have also committed such acts, but at least in their case they're less likely to be hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith Darksea
    Well, interestingly enough, surveys have found that of a test group shown homosexual pornography, the men who were most likely to be sexually aroused were the ones who had expressed the most homophobic views. Now I don't know if all conservative politics can be reduced to a massive case of self-hating denial, but I'm sure that there are times when it is possible. Of course you will probably find a large number on the liberal wing of American politics who have also committed such acts, but at least in their case they're less likely to be hypocritical.
    Less likely to be hypocritical? As in liberal politicians condone child molestation so actually doing so isn't hypocritical? Heh, maybe this needs some rephrasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nationalist_Cause
    Less likely to be hypocritical? As in liberal politicians condone child molestation so actually doing so isn't hypocritical? Heh, maybe this needs some rephrasing.
    Yeah, you're probably right there.

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    This is actually somewhat disappointing Garb.

    correlation does not imply causation?
    Quoted for truth.

    The first link doesnt seem to work for me (the one at the top of the post), by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBurgerMaker
    The first link doesnt seem to work for me (the one at the top of the post), by the way.
    try this http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-04-05-voa15.cfm
    for some reason I cannot edit the first post...

    edit - Garb, I've replaced the link for you - Tac
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    I don't get those people. Just because they're paedophiles it doesn't mean they get more horny then regular people right? Instead of ruining childrens lifes they could just :wub:, that's what I would had done...

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    This thread is quite frankly insulting and would expect better then nonsense such as this, people are people no one is universally good or bad simply by slapping a political party label next to their name...Garbarsardar no doubt knows this so what exactly is the point of this thread? Forum has really gone into the toilet the past few months, begining to think too bad the april fools joke was simply a joke.

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    ****ing hell i thought british politics were sleazy !

    looks like stopping abortion so they can molest the child.

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    Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
    I think this just goes to show that most politicians dont really carry the convicitons of their patrons, and will go against their own beliefs to gain election.
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    I'm of the opinion that criminality in politicians is always worth knowing about, regardless of their party allegiances. The more I know about these corrupt bastards, the better I like it. It should be high-profile news, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihil
    I'm of the opinion that criminality in politicians is always worth knowing about, regardless of their party allegiances. The more I know about these corrupt bastards, the better I like it. It should be high-profile news, IMHO.
    Hear hear. Let those hyprocrites hang from the very rope they wove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihil
    I'm of the opinion that criminality in politicians is always worth knowing about, regardless of their party allegiances. The more I know about these corrupt bastards, the better I like it. It should be high-profile news, IMHO.
    Very true, but we shouldn't judge political ideas based on actions of their proponents. We can judge their suitability for office based on corruption or criminality but not on wealth, marital status or sexuality. Far to often in my country people vote based on the cult of personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallida Mors
    I think this just goes to show that most politicians dont really carry the convicitons of their patrons, and will go against their own beliefs to gain election.
    That sums it up very nicely
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