Ze Equesterians

[NerZhulen]

So I recruited an equesterian in rome and fought with him around 8 fullstack battles. Meanwhile this senator (fought exactly the same battles, all of them were on autoresolve) progressed throu legatus on legatus legionis (they both were leaders of full stack). But the equesterian is still on his first rank he recieved after the first battle.

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[NerZhulen]

Kay, this guy got Praefectus cohortis when assigned to stack. Next turn I sieged town, the turn after captured it and I see he "progressed" to tribunus -.-.

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[tone]

The equestrian career ladder looks something like this, so you see that he did progress from Praefectus cohortis.....it's likely that the first equestrian you had was originally Praefectus cohortis without you noticing? Thanks for the feedback though, keep coming with any queries like that.

In reality the progression to legatus will be made somewhat harder and the equestrian tree you see below will only be possible post Marian reforms.

[NerZhulen]

Firstly: 5 of 6 generals recruited are shy -.-.

So after some more battling I got few equesterians to agens vice legati.

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Sextus spent 1 turn in settlement and his trait got switched to some procurator or something, after 1 turn outside the city it got switched back to vice legati.

A patritian got his tribunus trait here, why im posting it is the barbarian spam of militia.

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Here one character has 2x the same name trait.

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Overall I think there is way too many traits the characters are getting quite quick after you get them.
And many of those traits are with "no effect" or very very negligible effect, personally I would remoove those. I like the game polished and lucid, but thats my personal view.

[tone]

Just so you get the idea of the traits system.....with these equestrian characters once they reach that stage, if you put them in a settlement for long enough they will gradually rise through the procurator ranks with a gradually increasing chance of being adlected to the senate and then able to get senatorial positions.

Have any of your characters received military decorations? e.g. corona civica, etc - see discussion about them in this thread around here (worth reading a bit before and after - we will get this information more organised at some stage) http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...442742&page=17

[NerZhulen]

How many units does need the general's unit to kill to get some decoration? Because Im not getting any, and I can't get from vice legati to praetorio either.

[tone]

To get the Praetorian prefect the character needs to be commmanding a Praetorian legion.

No decorations at all for anyone? I wonder whether that condition is working then....there are certainly a number of those triggers that have never worked in RTW.

[tone]

Sextus spent 1 turn in settlement and his trait got switched to some procurator or something, after 1 turn outside the city it got switched back to vice legati.

That's exactly as it should be.....he will only be procurator whilst in a settlement, but unless you want that character eventually to become a praetorian prefect, he's better taking the procuratorship with its chance of adlection into the senate and ultimately being able to gain a senatorial post and become a legatus.


Here are the triggers for the various military decorations -as you can see, you're only likely to win decorations if you when the battle odds are worse than 1.5 and the general kills more than 6 units....but if it's not working we need to figure what exactly is causing problems.

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Trigger Patella_Create_Centurion
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and Trait Plebeian = 1
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Plebeian_Military_Tree = 0

Affects Patella 1 Chance 100
Affects Plebeian_Military_Tree 1 Chance 100

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Trigger Patella_1
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and Trait Centurion = 1
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Patella 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Torques_1
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and Trait Centurion = 1
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Torques 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Silver_Armillae_1
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and Trait Centurion = 1
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Silver_Armilla 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Gold_Armillae_1
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and Trait Centurion = 1
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Gold_Armilla 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Phalerae_1
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and Trait Centurion = 1
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Phalerae_Cavalry 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Corona_Aurea_Is_Centurion
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and Trait Plebeian_Military_Tree > 0

Affects Corona_Aurea 1 Chance 20

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Trigger Corona_Aurea_Patrician
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 12
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Patrician = 1
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and Trait Patrician_Military_Tree > 0

Affects Corona_Aurea 1 Chance 15

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Trigger Corona_Aurea_Equestrian
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 12
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and Trait Equestrian = 1
and Trait Equestrian_Military_Tree > 0

Affects Corona_Aurea 1 Chance 15

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Trigger Corona_Vallaris_Centurion
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and I_ConflictType Siege
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and Trait Plebeian_Military_Tree >= 1

Affects Corona_Vallaris 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Corona_Muralis_Centurion
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and I_ConflictType Siege
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and Trait Plebeian_Military_Tree >= 1

Affects Corona_Muralis 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Corona_Civica_Any_Character
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 12
and WonBattle
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait LostEagle > 0

Affects Corona_Civica 1 Chance 8

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Trigger Corona_Navalis_Legatus_Legionis
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Legatus_Legionis = 1

Affects Corona_Navalis 1 Chance 2

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Trigger Corona_Obsidionalis_Seige_Tribunus
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and I_ConflictType Siege
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Tribunus = 1

Affects Corona_Obsidionalis 1 Chance 1

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Trigger Corona_Obsidionalis_Seige_Legatus
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and I_ConflictType Siege
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Legatus = 1

Affects Corona_Obsidionalis 1 Chance 1

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Trigger Corona_Obsidionalis_Seige_Legatus_Legionis
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and I_ConflictType Siege
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Legatus_Legionis = 1

Affects Corona_Obsidionalis 1 Chance 1

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Trigger Corona_Obsidionalis_Field_Equestrian_Praefectus_Legionis
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and Trait Equestrian_Praefectus_Legionis = 1

Affects Corona_Obsidionalis 1 Chance 1

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Trigger Spolia_Opima_Legatus_Legionis
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and NumKilledGenerals > 0
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and Trait Legatus_Legionis = 1

Affects Spolia_Opima 1 Chance 1

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Trigger Hasta_Pura_01
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Hasta_Pura 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Vexillum_01
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 6
and WonBattle
and BattleSuccess >= clear
and CultureType roman
and BattleOdds < 1.5
and not Trait Coward1 > 0

Affects Vexillum 1 Chance 25

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Trigger Coronae_Triumphales_Tribunus
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and FactionLeaderTrait Imperator = 0
and Trait Battle_Counter = 9

Affects Coronae_Triumphales 1 Chance 100

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Trigger Ornamenta_Triumphalia_Legatus
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and not Trait Imperial_Jealousy > 0
and FactionLeaderTrait Imperator = 1
and Trait Battle_Counter = 9
and Trait Legatus = 1

Affects Ornamenta_Triumphalia 1 Chance 100

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Trigger Ornamenta_Triumphalia_Legatus_Legionis
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and CultureType roman
and not Trait Coward1 > 0
and not Trait LostEagle > 0
and not Trait Imperial_Jealousy > 0
and FactionLeaderTrait Imperator = 1
and Trait Battle_Counter = 9
and Trait Legatus_Legionis = 1

Affects Ornamenta_Triumphalia 1 Chance 100

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[dvk901]

You will get 'zero' decorations auto-resolving, as the General will never get any credit for kills. That's why they aren't showing up.

[NerZhulen]

No, I did about 10 manually fought battles and still nothing, maybe its because I played this on small unit size, Ill try huge now.

[NerZhulen]

Okay it is working, two battles with huge squads and there it is.

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Ehm probably it has the be the general horse who kills the units, not his whole squad eh?

[dvk901]

Well, if I understand correctly what you mean, yes, it would be the General's unit, not the General himself. And, as far as unit size, it could be that it's just harder for the General unit to kill 6 men than in a larger unit size.