AI respawn troops !!

**Attractive** · August 27, 2011, 07:06 PM

Hi Again
In short : I was England and i was going to take Caernarvon of Wales
I had 2 full army commanding by worthy generals, When i reached capital castle of Wales a huge army appeared there !! all bests of Wales army
I'm really confused, I checked every strategic position with my spies
Its just like AI respawned many troops
like create_unit Caernarvon Saewtyer 4 !!! lol
Can someone explain things for me, I'm going mad

Thanks in advance

**Stylix** · August 27, 2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Attractive

Hi Again
In short : I was England and i was going to take Caernarvon of Wales
I had 2 full army commanding by worthy generals, When i reached capital castle of Wales a huge army appeared there !! all bests of Wales army
I'm really confused, I checked every strategic position with my spies
Its just like AI respawned many troops
like create_unit Caernarvon Saewtyer 4 !!! lol

This is the garrison script, it is found in most mods and in some 'vanilla' Total War games.

Originally Posted by KGCM + HHB Frequently Asked Questions

Why do troops "magically" appear in cities I lay seige to?

This is the garrison script, designed to prevent players rushing the AI early on. To disable the garrison script, download the file at the bottom of this post- LINK- and follow the instructions; it will replace the old one.
If you decide you want to revert back to the full garrison script from the original v4.2, it has been attached at the bottom of this post. (campaign_script.txt)

You may also want to read this thread:
troops magically appear in city i lag siege..

**vietanh797** · August 27, 2011, 09:09 PM

a very popular script in many mods out there
it used to protect important cities for AI since they often abandon their cities rush to the front and many player try to make an easy way by take out their castle then finish off the rebel
to be correct it "is" create_unit not "like"

**Attractive** · August 28, 2011, 09:40 AM

I know that buddy, I said : Its just like ...
BTW it is not logical, Look we can consider this magical troops as garrisoned troops in a city or castle that should be limit i power and form specially in early era of game ( In S2TW garrisoned troops was limit) but it respawn an amazing well-balanced army with full power, This is not logical for me
Thanks for your help i'm going to download non garrison script for my 4.2 version of mod

**vietanh797** · August 28, 2011, 11:29 AM

I suggest you just think about it that your spy bring you some

information(may be he with some whore and forgot to do his job after that he making up the information so he won't be fire) and you fall into a trap because you believe in him

**Scotius** · September 02, 2011, 01:53 PM

In Heroes, Hordes and Beyond you usually have 2 x 20 stacks roaming around the city then another 20 stack appears in the city and if its the last city and you take it, another 20 stack spawns and you just think to yourself, bankrupt much?!

The reduced garrison script is good though, it is a lot more realistic to have levy spearmen and bowmen appear than dismounted chivalric knights.

**Stylix** · September 02, 2011, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Scotius

In Heroes, Hordes and Beyond you usually have 2 x 20 stacks roaming around the city

Maybe, but not in most cases.

then another 20 stack appears in the city

The average is 11 units for a major city, but can be higher for a capital, like London, but not 20 units.

and if its the last city and you take it, another 20 stack spawns

This is part of the re-emerging faction script and usually contains around 11 units, depending on the faction and will only fire if the King does not exist.

The reduced garrison script is good though, it is a lot more realistic to have levy spearmen and bowmen appear than dismounted chivalric knights.

More realistic, perhaps, but far less challenging to an experienced or good player.

**Dave Scarface** · September 03, 2011, 01:53 PM

Also just so you know, the garrison script will only fire every 10 turns. This time allows you to put a settlement under siege and starve it out without another garrison army respawning. So if you say put Paris under siege on turn 10 an army will spawn to defend the city. However, for the next 10 turns no other armies will respawn if the city is attacked again. This gives you enough time to either take the city in the first siege battle or send additional armies to capture Paris. I hope this helps people to understand how the garrison script works a little better.