Rome 2 Total War?? Possibly

[Alex_the_Great50]

After the release of Shogun 2 I thought well if they do a Shogun 2, why not do a Rome 2. Any thoughts/Ideas?

[KingofPoland]

Yes that is true. Rome was the most popular of Total war games, so it would be accepted very easily. Unless they make it like empire

[Hopit]

Yes that is true. Rome was the most popular of Total war games, so it would be accepted very easily. Unless they make it like empire

well, there are those heretics who say the most popular is Medieval 2

[bggeneral2]

well, there are those heretics who say the most popular is Medieval 2

Me too....

[KingofPoland]

Then call me a heretic

[Kuroi]

Then call me a heretic

You'll burn in hell!
But before that... SPANISH INQUISITION WILL GET YOU!
Because nobody expects Spanish inquisition!


But apart from that, I think that Alex is pretty much right, it's good time for Rome to return.

[empr guy]

there are two decent reasons why they would not do rome 2 immediatly after S2.

Reason one is that they will be making a new engine. That means the first game on it will probably have alot of flaws and bugs that need fixing on release. Since Rome 2 will be an important game for them, they will not want it to be like empire on release.

The second is they don't want two sequals in a row, lots of people would get paranoid that they are only making remakes after that, and it gets kind of old after a while.

imho it's time for a game about something else, mabe a game about the mongols, who knows. All I know is that they should make a completly new game on a new engine, and once thats sorted out (bugs etc) then make Rome 2.

[Grimmy]

there are two decent reasons why they would not do rome 2 immediatly after S2.

Reason one is that they will be making a new engine. That means the first game on it will probably have alot of flaws and bugs that need fixing on release. Since Rome 2 will be an important game for them, they will not want it to be like empire on release.

The second is they don't want two sequals in a row, lots of people would get paranoid that they are only making remakes after that, and it gets kind of old after a while.

imho it's time for a game about something else, mabe a game about the mongols, who knows. All I know is that they should make a completly new game on a new engine, and once thats sorted out (bugs etc) then make Rome 2.

A proper period for new engine testing/game releasing would be Harry Potter Total War. That way, since many of us are a bit burned out on the new engine flop releases, they can bring in a whole new clientèle.

[Primo]

A proper period for new engine testing/game releasing would be Harry Potter Total War. That way, since many of us are a bit burned out on the new engine flop releases, they can bring in a whole new clientèle.

Harry Potter Total War?
I can garantuee you there will never be a Harry Potter Total War.

[Symphony]

Harry Potter Total War?
I can garantuee you there will never be a Harry Potter Total War.

No, but I've thought for awhile that Fantasy: Total War might be a path they take at some point.

Think way back to the old SSI 5-Star series. In among Panzer General, Allied General, and the like, SSI squeezed in the quirky-but-fun Fantasy General, using the same engine, but freeing themselves (to some degree) from the constraints of historical accuracy and letting them play around with the engine a bit.

CA's in a bit of a corner. From an Era perspective, they're running out of territory to cover. Any further into the future, and they run into WWII and the rise of aerial combat, which would be....let's be polite and call it a strain on their traditional engine. Any earlier than Rome, and they start entering more obscure historical territory (and a much more niche audience).

They have cultural areas they can cover, but one of Shogun's flaws is that everybody's the same culture....faction diversity gets more difficult without stretching historical accuracy past the breaking point, and your scope is neccessarily limited (this is also why i never played any of the Kingdom campaigns more than once). That can be fun to play once, but it doesn't have the replayability or staying power, and again, you're limiting your audience.

All of the fertile territory (Rome, Medieval, etc) would be by definition a sequel, and I agree that they won't want to waste R2TW on an untried engine.

Enter Fantasy: Total War. It'd give CA a chance to create a completely new map, unbound by historical reality. They can introduce whatever odd units they'd need to (orcs, undead, dwarves, elves, wizards, whatever) to both stretch the new engine and build in as much faction diversity as they feel they need to. It'd have a very wide market, and could very well springboard new players (the non-strategy, non-historical crowd) into the TW genre....something they'd LOVE to accomplish prior to really nailing a R2TW on the new engine.

May never happen, but it's hard not to think it'd be a win/win for CA.

[ztrain909]

there are two decent reasons why they would not do rome 2 immediatly after S2.

Reason one is that they will be making a new engine. That means the first game on it will probably have alot of flaws and bugs that need fixing on release. Since Rome 2 will be an important game for them, they will not want it to be like empire on release.

The second is they don't want two sequals in a row, lots of people would get paranoid that they are only making remakes after that, and it gets kind of old after a while.

imho it's time for a game about something else, mabe a game about the mongols, who knows. All I know is that they should make a completly new game on a new engine, and once thats sorted out (bugs etc) then make Rome 2.

Empr guy, you really know how to quell a persons hopes and dreams for a Rome 2. Even though i'd have to agree with you. I have been dreaming of the day when i can crush MorganH's precious Roman Legions with my Carthaginian elephants in a new and beautiful game engine.

[Stingray970]

Primo, ruining funny jokes one at a time.

[Zemdu]

there are two decent reasons why they would not do rome 2 immediatly after S2.

Reason one is that they will be making a new engine. That means the first game on it will probably have alot of flaws and bugs that need fixing on release. Since Rome 2 will be an important game for them, they will not want it to be like empire on release.

did'nt they use the new engine for napoleon total war and the peninsula campaign aswell?

but I agree the next totalwar game probebly won't RTW2, they'll do an expansion for shogun2 first

[Primo]

Primo, ruining funny jokes one at a time.

Yeah, thats me.

[Walkers_Shade]

Would we even be very interested in a RTW2? I mean the first one was a bit of a bust historically speaking. That is kinda why we have a thousand and one mods for it. RS or RTR always seemed like Rome 2 to me.

[ObiWan86]

Olympic total war anyone? LOL joking

yah.. i'm hoping for the sequel of the RTW

[Nikron]

Nazi - Total War perhaps

[blur!]

Well, if RTW2(<3ING LOVE RTW) will be like the shogun 2 engine(i mean the crappy terrain in campaign and stupid tree textures)then they should do another game!

[Nebulon]

Running out of territory to cover? I have not seen A China or India Total war... do not speak of such sacreligious thoughts!

[Symphony]

Running out of territory to cover? I have not seen A China or India Total war... do not speak of such sacreligious thoughts!

Falls into the same bin as Shogun....historically rich, but limited in scope. Most/all of your factions come from the same culture (and are therefore difficult to differentiate), your map is one limited geographical area....

I totally get how people interested in that culture/period can enjoy games like Shogun, or the Kingdoms campaigns, But they're aimed at a smaller niche audience, and therefore not as attractive to CA (I choose not to buy Shogun 2 for that reason, and only ever played each Kingdoms campaign once....and wouldn't recommend them to a friend).