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How do christians know that there church is the right one?
For example why do catholics believe that there church is the one true church compared to say the protestant churches?
Again why do protestants think that there church is in the right and is the only one that stays true to Jesus's teachings?
Same could also be asked for those who follow the Orthodox church too...
Also personally if you are a christian yourself how do you know the church you follow is the right one compared to all the others out there?
Dux Limitis
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
They're all technically "right" if they believe Jesus was ther son of the one God who was resurrected physically from the dead. But they have different practices and institutions one of which is the right one for whatever historical or theological reason that happens to be. Then you have heretical branches like say the Mormons which are arguably not Christians. Mormons believe the God of the bible is one of many physical gods who live on planets elsewhere in the universe, as revealed by their prophet Joesph Smith from unearthing tablets of gold.
Last edited by Helm; August 26, 2011 at 01:11 PM.
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Bugger Bamfield!
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
There is no right or wrong. It is all relative.
Testudo
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Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
It's the church that's most appealing to them. The others, therefore, must have something wrong with them. Or so the logic goes.
Vicarius Provinciae
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Well I was nominally Orthodox (born into it) when I was younger and then I studied all the forms of Christianity that i could (and some other religions as well) and I found the Orthodox Church to have the historical and theological base and consistency that the others do not have. The "catholic" church was a political invention and the protestant off shoots are the allergy made by such an organization.Originally Posted by Banzai!!!
"Mors Certa, Hora Incerta."
"We are a brave people of a warrior race, descendants of the illustrious Romans, who made the world tremor. And in this way we will make it known to the whole world that we are true Romans and their descendants, and our name will never die and we will make proud the memories of our parents." ~ Despot Voda 1561
"The emperor Trajan, after conquering this country, divided it among his soldiers and made it into a Roman colony, so that these Romanians are descendants, as it is said, of these ancient colonists, and they preserve the name of the Romans." ~ 1532, Francesco della Valle Secretary of Aloisio Gritti, a natural son to Doge
Ducenarius
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Maybe can say the same about Orthodoxy... which has political origin also if i´m not wrong... since they rebelled against roman authority under pression from east roman emperor...
Vicarius Provinciae
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
No you can't say the same because this is non sense and never happened.
"Mors Certa, Hora Incerta."
"We are a brave people of a warrior race, descendants of the illustrious Romans, who made the world tremor. And in this way we will make it known to the whole world that we are true Romans and their descendants, and our name will never die and we will make proud the memories of our parents." ~ Despot Voda 1561
"The emperor Trajan, after conquering this country, divided it among his soldiers and made it into a Roman colony, so that these Romanians are descendants, as it is said, of these ancient colonists, and they preserve the name of the Romans." ~ 1532, Francesco della Valle Secretary of Aloisio Gritti, a natural son to Doge
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
They don't. They have faith that there's is correct.
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Dux Limitis
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
But faith is virtuous isn't it?
The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
Bugger Bamfield!
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
"...Faith is believing what you know ain't so." - Mark Twain
People want to believe that their church is the "right" one, because if it is not, then what are they going to do? No one can say what church is the correct one, just like no one can say what religion is the "right" one. They may claim they know until they are blue in the face, but they do not. They just hope and pray that they are right. I mean, how shattering would that be if you spent all of your life thinking that you were going to the "right" church just to find out you were wrong all of those years. In think that is another reason why people want to believe that they are correct in their religion.
Testudo
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Nope.
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Dux Limitis
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
People who have it seem to think it is though.
The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
They'd be wrong.
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Dux Limitis
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
You could compare it to betting on a horse, they're going for the one they think looks the fittest. But its more than just "where you go when you die" its about the sort of thing they get up to while they're still alive as well.
The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
Campidoctor
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
None of them are right
"The Turks are never trapped. It's the people who surround them who are in trouble."Anthony Hebert
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." Christopher Hitchens
Dux Limitis
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Hey hey, oy!, if God doesn't exist who wrote the Bible? That's something to think about isn't it?
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The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Easy to say if you're a Muslim.
Neither is Islam or its Sunni, Shia, & Sufi Islamic offshoots.
Explain your personal research & findings first, then post.
hellas2.6.....Winning
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Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Oops, I believe you just tried to claim an atheist was a muslim.
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Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
No sir. I wasn't imputing a false claim ON an Atheist.
I was merely stating that Muslims naturally say that EVERY form of Christianity is wrong and that I believe that every form of Islam is a false religion meaning it's sources are man-made with demonic influence.
I make no apologies for my beliefs but I respect people's right to hold their own, be they true or fully false insofar as being "Divinely Inspired" is concerned.
hellas1.5.....
Re: How do christians know that there church is the right one?
Islamic groups are not the same as chrisitan groups.
for example shia and sunni.
Both shia and sunni believe in the same one god Allah, Both believe in the same book the Quran, both beleive Prophet muhamed is the last messenger of god. both believer the 5 daily prayers, haj (pilgrimage) zakat (charity) is obligatory. They may disagree on the little details on how to pray but they both beleive it is obligatory and both play in the same times.
Now the Cristian groups.
One bible has 73 books, another bible has 66 books. not the same. one sais jesus is god another sais jesus is the son of god one sais mary is the mother of god another sais she is the wife of god.each has its own bible. the verse which is in the protestant bible is noti nthe cathlocs bible.
however if the sunni recites a verse the hsia will continue the verse for him, the old sunni grandpa can recite a verse and his young grandson can continue it for him.the same book for both shia and sunni, the same book for old and young , unchanged un edited. however we see every month the govenremnt produces a new edition of the bible, who is changing the bible? do u have another prophet who is telling u the word of god and u are changing it every month ? no it is human hands and theh uman mind which is editing the bible. and not a word of it is the same as it was some 1000 years ago.
I am a delivery man, i want to deliver a package, i have no right to make u take it.
The package is Islam,
There is no god but allah (god), mohamed is the last an final messenger of god, Jesus Moses Noah Joseph Jacob and all those before them are all Prophets and messengers of god. Islam did not start 1400 years ago by a man called mohamed, Islam was the religion of Moses Jesus Noah Jacob Lot , they all preached the same thing there is only one god and we must worship him.
I must explain further. A company releases a program (islam) with the passing of years the program becomes effected by virsus and has gone wrong, the comapny rleeases an update, it goes worng effected by the passing of years it releases another update that goes wrong becuase of viruses, then it releases an update which they have promised wil not get effeected by any viruses becuase they have put protection over it with an antivirus program.
Well the program is islam, the updates are Moses with the Torah, Jesus with the Bible, and the last update for the people is Mohamed with the Quran. some of the people have not updated there program and have an obsolete old copy of the program infected with viruses and glitches, some have updated once but have neglected the latest update, and some have the newest version already or have updated. well some are jewish some are christian and some are muslims, you must not be of those who have an old and defect version of the program.
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