What causes mining income to drop?

[_Elysium_]

Hello.

I'm playing as England in my current campaign, and at this moment I hold 34 regions. Quite a few of those regions have mining networks, but I've noticed over the last 10 or so turns that my mining income has been gradually decreasing. Not by much each turn, but I've now lost about 2000 Florins per turn from it since I last saw it at it's highest. It used to be around 11.8K, but its now at just over 9.9K.

Am I missing something here? The mining networks in each settlement still show the same income as they did when they were first built, and I thought mining income was constant.

Thanks.

[.L.]

Corruption, corruption corruption.

[.L.]

get some spies, and it will decrease, but you can never fully get rid of it. BTW sorry about the bold that was an accident.

[_Elysium_]

Thanks for the replies.

I have noticed corruption increasing. I didn't realise it came from mining aswell, though I do understand that it would in real life.

get some spies, and it will decrease, but you can never fully get rid of it. BTW sorry about the bold that was an accident.

Spies decrease corruption? Would they have to be in a settlement to reduce the corruption there?

[The Kybrothilian]

getting law bonuses (trough buildings and governors) also reduces corruption and can even remove it, if the level is low enough.

[Fireright]

What about rebels knocking about and interrupting trade and causing devastation and all that or does that only affect farm income ?

Could be a fingers in the till job as well

[danny X]

have a look at your generals traits, they might have their fingers in the till!!

[_Elysium_]

I've looked through my settlement details, and I found more than 3K of corruption from three ungoverned settlements. Two of them (Stockholm and Timbuktu) are cities with mining networks and all available law buildings constructed. They have more than 1.4K corruption each. The third is a Citadel (Tunis) with almost 700 corruption. Timbuktu's corruption is more than 50% of it's income. Tunis is now governed, and I have a governor enroute to Timbuktu. I can't spare anyone near Stockholm, and I only have 19 family member to my 34 regions.

Is there anything else I can do to reduce corruption? I was thinking of lowering taxes, but I don't know if that will make any difference.

[Fireright]

I recall that corruption increases if the income reaches a certain level, say 50,000 so might be an idea to keep spending lean and mean and not too much in the kitty. I'm sure someone else will know the exact number when corruption triggers etc

[AJenny58]

Changing your capital will help as well. It should be in about the center of your empire. Distance to capital affects corruption.

[_Elysium_]

I recall that corruption increases if the income reaches a certain level, say 50,000 so might be an idea to keep spending lean and mean and not too much in the kitty. I'm sure someone else will know the exact number when corruption triggers etc

Ouch. There was a single turn where I was over 50,000. I usually do my spending once all battles and agent things are done, but on that turn I continued without spending, by mistake. Does that mean I'll be stuck with the increased corruption from now on? I'm rarely above 30K now.

Changing your capital will help as well. It should be in about the center of your empire. Distance to capital affects corruption.

I'll do that when I get back to the game, but I can't see it making a huge difference due to how spread out my empire is. Every little helps though.

Are enemies more inclined to attack a capital? I was thinking of moving it from London to Marseille, but that will put it very close to Milanese territory.

[Fireright]

What about trying merchants guilds and all that? The merchants are better, dunno if it reduces overall corruption though.

[_Elysium_]

I've been trying to get a Merchant's Guild in Timbuktu ever since I took it 60 or 70 turns ago, but I've only had the St John's thing offered, and that was a couple of turns ago.

[.L.]

I've been trying to get a Merchant's Guild in Timbuktu ever since I took it 60 or 70 turns ago, but I've only had the St John's thing offered, and that was a couple of turns ago.

you could always just import some merchants from an area WITH a guild

[crzyrndm]

Spies definetely help. I always keep a priest, assasin and spy in every settlement to stop anything like this happening. The spy decreases corruption and unrest and seems to increase the detection rate of infiltrators. The assasin seems to increase the kill rate on infiltrators (subjective assesment), and is useful if a heretic pops up and my priest fails to get rid of him. The priest is there to stop religious unrest and take out heretics.

With all three, even late into the game with millions in the bank, corruption and unrest tend to be much lower than without.

Also change your capital to the city which gives the lowest corruption value in the finances panel. Sometimes the center isn't actually the center (because corruption is income dependent, low earners don't give as much as high earners). Once capital is shifted, make sure to check the PO in all settlements as that is affected by distance to capital aswell.

[Aymer de Valence]

I believe recruiting LOADS of merchants from a settlement gives you a much higher chance of being offered a guild, so that could help you get one in Timbuktu. You could already be doing that though, apologies if you are

[Jianadaren]

Can rebels capture mines in the same way they can capture watchtowers? Can enemy merchants capture your mining income if they trade on your mines?