Should This Faction Wait Until 2.0, or Should The Team Add Them Now? (ADWD Spoilers)

[Heart of Madness]

Do you want to wait longer for Aegon to be playable in 1.0, or just put it aside for version 2.0?

[Cillian]

No, please lets just try and get v1 released before Cthulu eats us all in 2012

[khatmar]

Yes, I think as well that Aegon shouldnt be in the 1.0. It would not do well to have another contested for the Iron Throne where there are three already. I mean... it is a total mayhem as it is. And I just it wouldnt really fit if Robb should fight Young Griff...

I dunno, perhaps as a non playable scripted horde, maybe...

[Heart of Madness]

Hmm, disappointing. I would have thought people would want to have played as Aegon. Oh well, if I can't I'll figure out how to submod it. Somehow

[Iaius Statius Laurentius]

Heh. I'll want to play as Aegon for sure. Finally, an avenue to get the Targaryens in the game that doesn't involve expanding the map!

edit: Yes, I think as well that Aegon shouldnt be in the 1.0. It would not do well to have another contested for the Iron Throne where there are three already. I mean... it is a total mayhem as it is. And I just it wouldnt really fit if Robb should fight Young Griff.

That's what makes it fun, though! It's Total War, not Really Polite and Organized War. Moreover, alternate history is the point--so what if Robb fights Aegon? It's not any different from the Martells or Tyrells taking the Iron Throne, which is a possibility in the game as it stands. That's the whole point!

[Heart of Madness]

Heh. I'll want to play as Aegon for sure. Finally, an avenue to get the Targaryens in the game that doesn't involve expanding the map!

edit: Yes, I think as well that Aegon shouldnt be in the 1.0. It would not do well to have another contested for the Iron Throne where there are three already. I mean... it is a total mayhem as it is. And I just it wouldnt really fit if Robb should fight Young Griff.

That's what makes it fun, though! It's Total War, not Really Polite and Organized War. Moreover, alternate history is the point--so what if Robb fights Aegon? It's not any different from the Martells or Tyrells taking the Iron Throne, which is a possibility in the game as it stands. That's the whole point!

Agree.

[KamikazeFTW]

Personally I just want to get the mod out ASAP, (without affecting the awesomeness of the mod)

[Heart of Madness]

Well, if you think about it, all they would have to do is skin a few Targ units for when you take a city/castle. Give them assorted banners on their shields. Have Hannibal make a few general skins for Aegon, Jon, and some members of the Golden Company, and then gice them victory conditions and events.

I'm surprised at the hostility towards the idea. We don't even know when the mod will be out yet either.

Of course, the entire Targ army would have to start several months out at sea. And sure, winning as them would be very hard and you'd have to build your kingdom from scratch.

Just consider how soon after the fact that Eddard is executed that Aegon reveals himself.

Now, if we had to wait for Dany, I would be upset as well, considering she hasn't even invaded Westeros yet. (If she ever does).

Plus, skinning all her units would be a pain in the ass due to diversity.

Theres my two cents.

[Toho]

let 1.0 come out then some chap or the team can start working on the Targaryen faction addition.

[Heart of Madness]

Wow, I feel so alone.

[Toho]

Aegon comes when the war of the 5 kings is bascily over and even after the 5th book he has just landed with only half of his forces and the Dornishmen dont even know he existed, not to mention dany is on the other side of the world.

[Heart of Madness]

This mod doesn't intend to include all the details of the story, and it was only several months after the beginning of the WoTFK that Aegon invaded. I would say Aegon invaded 5-6 months after the start of the WoTFK.

[donions]

As much as I'd love to have some Targaryen's, there are no dragons in this game, so why go down that road?

Im all for an expansion/submod after the initial release, where the story picks up where it is in ADWD and you land as Aegon and attempt to reclaim your throne. But for now I just want to play some Game of Thrones, Starks, Lannisters, Greyjoys, etc....there's enough options for now.

[Werthead]

This mod doesn't intend to include all the details of the story, and it was only several months after the beginning of the WoTFK that Aegon invaded. I would say Aegon invaded 5-6 months after the start of the WoTFK.

Aegon's invasion is between two and two and a half years after the start of AGoT (AGoT starts in 298, ADWD ends in late 300 or early 301), going by the timeline information we have from the books and other sources.

If Aegon is to be included, I'd like to see him as an emergent faction in the late-game period. It may also be more interesting to have him as part of an expanded campaign map incorporating Essos and the Free Cities.

[Heart of Madness]

You don't need dragons if it's Aegon.

[donions]

You don't need dragons if it's Aegon.

True, but would he have even landed in Westeros if the War hadnt turned out the way it did. It was his conversation with Tyrion where the imp said how weak the realm was, and especially how weak Cersei's leadership was, that convinced Aegon he could take his throne without Dany and her dragons.
I dont imagine that same scenario plays out when gents like you and me have control of Stark/Arryn/etc armies.

Point being, it'd be a cool addition, but ultimately it isnt necessarily authentic to the "story" when the game starts, and therefore isnt necessary for 1.0.

ps. I've read what I typed twice, i realize it isnt worded well, but i just got baked, cut me some slack.

[Heart of Madness]

Again, this game doesn't have to be 100% on par with the stories. Someone help me out here.

[Iaius Statius Laurentius]

A horde faction could be fun. The regular MTW2 had the Mongols and such. Why not Aegon and the golden company? I'm assuming that most recruitment is AoR, so it could just grab units wherever the Targaryen faction chooses to invade and conquer land. They would just need a small handful of units. Obviously a lot of people just want 1.0 out, myself included, but if it proved to be simple enough then why not? And if it proved to be a bit of trouble, then it could wait. It'd honestly be up to the dev team in any case, after all.

[Heart of Madness]

Just read my user page and see what Murfmurf has said so far everyone.

[Gurkhal]

I'd love to see the Targaryens be added to the game but I see the problem with them showing up some time later than everyone else. I naturally understand that this may not be entirely for the way that the books pointed but I think that a Targ invasion would be awesome. One possibility could also be to have an event where the player can decide if Aegon makes his own move early or if he sticks to the plan and come along with Daenerys.

For that I have two possible suggestions to solve it.

1. Make a special naval unite that is rock-hard in battle but moves SLOWLY out in the sea

2. Give the Targs a small town in the corner of the sea, surrounded by a ring of mountains, that can't train or build anything and that gives just enough income to keep 'em on +. Then using an event that makes Aegon arrive on the Westerosi coast with his army. After he has captured his first city or castle the little town in the corner either rebells. OR it remains untill Daenerys shows up, which I think that she will do sooner or later personally, and then it can rebell so that the Targs can be properly exterminated if events turn that way.

But in regards to the question I do think that our brave little dragon would have to wait untill v. 2.0.