So explain to me...

[Mortality]

Why God would make a planet, fill it with people and animals and plants. Then want to kill them? I mean, isn't that a bit redundant? That's like driving to a football game, watching for two minutes, then leaving. Also, explain to me why sodomy, homosexuality, and lesbianism is bad. Does it affect you Christians? Does it affect you Muslims? Does it affect you anti-gays? I mean, I'm not gay, but I'm tired of hearing this crap you Christians spurt out of your mouths about "GOD HATES GAYS!!!" "GOD HATES FAGGS!"

Also, explain this song to me:

[Helm]

Christianity like to focuss on the bad things about the world, humanity in general and your own sinful nature while looking forward to the "world to come" once you have repented your sins properly and died. In a strange reverse way it makes them feel good about life. Though this is just those few Christians who have taken the core message to heart.

[Primo]

Christianity like to focuss on the bad things about the world, humanity in general and your own sinful nature while looking forward to the "world to come" once you have repented your sins properly and died. In a strange reverse way it makes them feel good about life. Though this is just those few Christians who have taken the core message to heart.

This post is a banner for how many things you don´t about christianity, but still you think enough to make a judgement like this.

Being a christians is more about this world than the other - I mean, you want to be in the paradise, but to get there you have to life a moralic life and (not neccessarily, but increasing your odds greatly) believe in god. Both things in this world.

Before you judge millions of people like that, think about it and study it further, plz. The way you wrote every christian would just go to confession and then shoot himself, which is clearly - I am sure I don´t have to provide a source for that - not the case.

[Playfishpaste]

Why God would make a planet, fill it with people and animals and plants. Then want to kill them?

He doesn't. On christian theism, all people are immortal (except the ones that end up in hell, but this isn't really the product of what God prefers willy nilly, it's what he is obligated to do. A police officer may not like to put you in jail, and he doesn't have to necessarily, but a perfectly good being has to, if you've committed an injustice.)

I mean, isn't that a bit redundant? That's like driving to a football game, watching for two minutes, then leaving.

God probably doesn't consider human existence a football game. On christian theism anyway.

Also, explain to me why sodomy, homosexuality, and lesbianism is bad.

Because the probability that sodomy, homosexuality and lesbianism (which is a type of homosexuality, so it's strange that you separate these) is evil is very high on christian theism. Suppose, for example, that an omnibenevolent being exists and made a book (the Bible). Let's call this evidence G. Let's call the prior probability of homosexuality being evil H. Let's call homosexuality being evil E. Given these definitions, P(E/H+G) is very high, even if P(E/H) is very low, because an omnibenevolent being would clearly only necessarily give good instructions. Such a being is an "ideal observer", so obviously any of his moral commands would be correct. Now WHY homosexuality might be wrong is an open question on christian theism (maybe hedonism is true and it's wrong because it causes suffering, or maybe deontology is true and it's wrong because it violates someone's rational will or rights), however, these things need not be speculated on because you already have a very strong proof that it's wrong by virtue of what we called G, even if you don't know the way in which it's wrong.

Does it affect you Christians? Does it affect you Muslims? Does it affect you anti-gays? I mean, I'm not gay, but I'm tired of hearing this crap you Christians spurt out of your mouths about "GOD HATES GAYS!!!" "GOD HATES FAGGS!"

The probability that god hates gay people on christian theism is very low. Given that it's a biblical thesis that he loves everyone.

[Ancient Aliens]

The probability that god hates gay people on christian theism is very low. Given the it's a biblical thesis that he loves everyone.

I get so damn tired of this. "God loves everyone", eh? Tell me, do you kill the firstborn of people you love? Would you want natural disasters inflicted on the people you love? What about rape? Torture? Murder? Slavery? Theft? Well let me be the first to tell you: Yahweh inflicts all this and more on the people he supposedly loves.

[Hilarion]

you Christians spurt out of your mouths about "GOD HATES GAYS!!!" "GOD HATES FAGGS!"

Wrong.

Christianity like to focuss on the bad things about the world

Wrong.

On christian theism, all people are immortal (except the ones that end up in hell, but this isn't really the product of what God prefers willy nilly, it's what he is obligated to do.

Wrong.

The probability that god hates gay people on christian theism is very low. Given that it's a biblical thesis that he loves everyone.

Close to the first accurate thing to be said in this thread, well done.

I get so damn tired of this. "God loves everyone", eh? Tell me, do you kill the firstborn of people you love? Would you want natural disasters inflicted on the people you love? What about rape? Torture? Murder? Slavery? Theft? Well let me be the first to tell you: Yahweh inflicts all this and more on the people he supposedly loves.

Wrong. We've been over this a million times. The OT serves as a preface to the NT and is based on an imperfect understanding of God (Old Covenant) because of the Fall, corrected in the NT by the coming of Christ (New Covenant).

[In3x]

Wrong.

Wrong

Wrong.

Wrong, many many christians hate gays because god makes his position very clear in Leviticus

Wrong.

Wrong, christianity is preoccupied with sin

Close to the first accurate thing to be said in this thread, well done.

Wrong, not even close, god sends those his "loves" to suffer unimaginably agony for eternity

Wrong. We've been over this a million times. The OT serves as a preface to the NT and is based on an imperfect understanding of God (Old Covenant) because of the Fall, corrected in the NT by the coming of Christ (New Covenant).

But what was corrected? Some say he just did away with the need for animal sacrifice to purge sins because he made himself that sacrifice. Plenty of others seem to think that Jesus endorsed the Old Testament in Matthew 5:17-19.

[Hilarion]

Wrong

Wrong, many many christians hate gays

What do I care what many many Christians think, and how can you generalize this as applying to all of Christianity?

Wrong, christianity is preoccupied with sin

Dealing with sin is by no measure an end in itself.

Wrong, not even close, god sends those his "loves" to suffer unimaginably agony for eternity

Persuasive argument, I can tell you're well-versed in Christian theology.

But what was corrected? Some say he just did away with the need for animal sacrifice to purge sins because he made himself that sacrifice. Plenty of others seem to think that Jesus endorsed the Old Testament in Matthew 5:17-19.

Again, what do I care what some or many Christians think?

Well thats the vast majority of Christendom, this thread didn't specify any particular denomination. I know there are liberal Christians and all that kind of thing as well.

Except that ignores the second largest official denomination.

[Helm]

If people are born in sin and the world is under domination of Satan and you're looking forward to the second coming of Christ when the world be destroyed and the dead judged that's kind of a negative view of the world.

[Hilarion]

If people are born in sin and the world is under domination of Satan and you're looking forward to the second coming of Christ when the world be destroyed and the dead judged that's kind of a negative view of the world.

People aren't born in sin, the world isn't under the domination of Satan, the world won't be destroyed but renewed, and how is the Second Coming and Resurrection of the Dead taking a negative view of the world?

[Helm]

People aren't born in sin, the world isn't under the domination of Satan, the world won't be destroyed but renewed, and how is the Second Coming and Resurrection of the Dead taking a negative view of the world?

You're a moderate Christian then but you still have to believe in original sin I think that's very much part of the doctrine.

[Hilarion]

You're a moderate Christian then but you still have to believe in original sin I think that's very much part of the doctrine.

The idea that we inherit Adam's guilt is a Catholic/Protestant doctrine.

[Helm]

The idea that we inherit Adam's guilt is a Catholic/Protestant doctrine.

Well thats the vast majority of Christendom, this thread didn't specify any particular denomination. I know there are liberal Christians and all that kind of thing as well.

[Armatus]

I'm tired of hearing this crap you Christians spurt out of your mouths about "GOD HATES GAYS!!!" "GOD HATES FAGGS!"

Also, explain this song to me:

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"You Christians"? I think you mean those heretics known as the "Westboro Baptist Church"

[Hilarion]

"You Christians"? I think you mean those heretics known as the "Westboro Baptist Church"

Lol, pretty much, that's my biggest issue with the OP.

[In3x]

Lol, pretty much, that's my biggest issue with the OP.

Lol, maybe you would be a truer christian if you followed the bible as rigorously as they did ...

[In3x]

You may not care what other christians think (apart from the theologians who back up your beliefs) but surely you care what the Bible says? Surely the Bible applies to all of christianity.

"Persuasive argument, I can tell you're well-versed in Christian theology." Christian theology seems to be an instrument for making up for the general cuntishness of their god. Or to push arguments into non-existent realms so that they cannot be challenged.

[Hilarion]

You may not care what other christians think (apart from the theologians who back up your beliefs) but surely you care what the Bible says? Surely the Bible applies to all of christianity.

Yes, but there's a difference between the Bible as Christianity's most important spiritual work and Sola Scriptura.

Anglican? I suppose that's fairly harmless. But I don't think this thread was aiming for them specifically. C.S Lewis still believed that the word was under the dominion of Satan though.

Eh? No, not Anglican, Orthodoxy.

[Helm]

Eh? No, not Anglican, Orthodoxy.

I don't really know much about Orthodoxy tbh, is that the one where the Virgin Mary goes around rescuing people? Or am I thinking of something else?

[Mortality]

Lol, pretty much, that's my biggest issue with the OP.

I live in a flat, my next door neighbour, is well, a Bible Thumping, "God Hates Fags", Repent or die Christian. Plus I grew up with a family like my flat neighbour.

Haha is this a joke? I do hear all the Christians saying God hates gays and fags. Oh, I've never heard that once from one in my whole life.
You might as well get Heinz Guderian to explain those beheading videos. Actually, don't.

I have a mate and I grew up with a family like how I described, so sweeping Generalization I know, but its what I was told as a child over and over and over.