Norman Invasion II

**TeutonicTemplar** · August 19, 2011, 04:37 AM

Norman Invasion II

I'm new in the forum and I recently saw in the RTW hosted mods a mod called "Norman Invasion". I've decided to make a mod using the Britannia Campaign of Kingdoms.
Mod Requirements:

Medieval II Total war:
Medieval II Total war: Kingdoms (v. 1.5)

How many factions:

8 -Total number of factions
6 - Playable factions
2 - Unplayable factions

Mod time line:

Early Medieval Britannia
1066 - 1096 A.D
2 month per turn (180 turns)

Factions:

1. Saxons (Vanilla saxons, playable)
2. Normans (More historical Vanilla normans, playable)
3. Norse (earlier Norse than the ones of Britannia, playable)
4. Welsh (Welsh of Britannia but with some earlier units)
5. Scots (Like Britannia without heavy plate armour)
6. Irish (Like Britannia without late units)
7. Saxon Rebels (replace Baron's Alliance and will make a rebellion against the Normans or Saxons)
8. Rebels

Campaigns:

Norman Invasion
The Saxon Ribellion (in V. 2)

**Heathen Storm** · August 19, 2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

Norman Invasion II

I'm new in the forum and I recently saw in the RTW hosted mods a mod called "Norman Invasion". I've decided to make a mod using the Britannia Campaign of Kingdoms.
Mod Requirements:

Medieval II Total war:
Medieval II Total war: Kingdoms (v. 1.5)

How many factions:

8 -Total number of factions
6 - Playable factions
2 - Unplayable factions

Mod time line:

Early Medieval Britannia
1066 - 1096 A.D
2 month per turn (180 turns)

Factions:

1. Saxons (Vanilla saxons, playable)
2. Normans (More historical Vanilla normans, playable)
3. Norse (earlier Norse than the ones of Britannia, playable)
4. Welsh (Welsh of Britannia but with some earlier units)
5. Scots (Like Britannia without heavy plate armour)
6. Irish (Like Britannia without late units)
7. Saxon Rebels (replace Baron's Alliance and will make a rebellion against the Normans or Saxons)
8. Rebels

Campaigns:

Norman Invasion
The Saxon Ribellion (in V. 2)

Not bad at all. Considering my units are just over 100 years before this, you're free to use units i make for any of these factions.

**TeutonicTemplar** · August 20, 2011, 01:12 AM

Thank you very much!
Your mod is awesome!

**Heathen Storm** · August 20, 2011, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

Thank you very much!
Your mod is awesome!

Thank YOU

I wish you luck with this excellent mod. My recommendation though;

What I hated about the original is that it took place after the Stamford Bridge, and after the battle of Hastings.
I would actually say it would be much more interesting to start the mod on the coronation of Harold Godwinson, and if the player was not the Norse or the Normans, then each faction would be scripted to invade (only for AI).
Just my two cents

I despise William the Bastard, but Harald Hardrade is one of my favorite kings in history so I would like to conquer England as him.

**TeutonicTemplar** · August 20, 2011, 01:35 AM

The battles of Stamford Bridge and Hastings are not already started: the campaign starts with english stacks and norse stacks near Stamford Bridge and the Normans start in France (need to add to the map Normandy and Calais) with some stacks already built.

**Heathen Storm** · August 20, 2011, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

The battles of Stamford Bridge and Hastings are not already started: the campaign starts with english stacks and norse stacks near Stamford Bridge and the Normans start in France (need to add to the map Normandy and Calais) with some stacks already built.

Really?

...Hmm, weird. I could've sworn I remember it being after the battle of hastings, because the Norse King Haraldr was not faction leader (it was his general) and Godwinson was dead... maybe they released a new version or something! I have no idea

But good! And maybe you should include some of Scandinavia as well! Not much... just a small bit

**One-Eye** · November 06, 2011, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Heathen Storm

Really?

...Hmm, weird. I could've sworn I remember it being after the battle of hastings, because the Norse King Haraldr was not faction leader (it was his general) and Godwinson was dead... maybe they released a new version or something! I have no idea

the Norman Invasion starts WITH Battle of Hastings from the first release

to the mod. good idea, and I can a little help you. I worked on Norman Invasion.

**Javelinman** · August 20, 2011, 01:36 AM

Nice idea!
Good luck!

**TeutonicTemplar** · August 20, 2011, 01:36 AM

Thanks man!

**TeutonicTemplar** · August 20, 2011, 01:39 AM

Norman Invasion starts at the battle of Stirling and the Normans are ready to fight at Hastings.
The Norse will have regions spread across Britannia: they will control the smaller islands as in Britannia campaign.

Also: do you know a mesh importer/exporter for 3ds max?

**Heathen Storm** · August 20, 2011, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

Norman Invasion starts at the battle of Stirling and the Normans are ready to fight at Hastings.
The Norse will have regions spread across Britannia: they will control the smaller islands as in Britannia campaign.

Also: do you know a mesh importer/exporter for 3ds max?

I do not, my friend. I use Milkshape, not 3ds max. Sorry mate!

**AnthoniusII** · August 20, 2011, 02:38 AM

Use TGC's Norman preview as unit making guide.
It will help you with consepts and unit abillities/weapons.
For example before 1100 you can not have knights as lancers.
You can have them as heavy javelimen or mounted spearmen.

**Vladyvid** · November 07, 2011, 01:45 AM

Norman invasion is the tutorial campaign for Medieval 2 Total War, so yeah, nice idea, redoing the tutorial campaign.

**One-Eye** · November 07, 2011, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

Mod time line:

Early Medieval Britannia
1066 - 1096 A.D
2 month per turn (180 turns)

the Normans started conquer Ireland only after 1160, so I think cut off Ireland and make map (England. Scotland, Wales, Orkneys, Man) larger. maybe add a part of Normandy?

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

Factions:

1. Saxons (Vanilla saxons, playable)
2. Normans (More historical Vanilla normans, playable)
3. Norse (earlier Norse than the ones of Britannia, playable)
4. Welsh (Welsh of Britannia but with some earlier units)
5. Scots (Like Britannia without heavy plate armour)
6. Irish (Like Britannia without late units)
7. Saxon Rebels (replace Baron's Alliance and will make a rebellion against the Normans or Saxons)
8. Rebels

Norse should be Kingdom of Isles.
I advice to do at least 2 Welsh factions. there are few mods with more Welsh factions.
if you cut off Ireland, the Irish are off

. if not Ireland needs about 3 factions to show situation here in these times.

I am not sure how shadowing works in M2TW, but the Rebel Saxons could be spawning faction if Saxons will lost too much regions, ie Normans become too strong...
and maybe add one more shadow faction shadowing Normans - there were some rebelions against William by Flemish and Norman noblemen.

Originally Posted by TeutonicTemplar

Campaigns:

Norman Invasion
The Saxon Ribellion (in V. 2)

maybe continue with Norman Invasion to Ireland?

about situation at the start. when it will be before Battle of Hastings, the Battle of Hastings should never be. example - you scripted Norse landing in Yorkshire and Battle of Stamford Bridge. what if Norse beat English and Harold will dies? who will fight in Battle of Hastings?