graphic card 4 rome

[Filip_bre]

i have ati radeon X300 Se Hyper Memory 128 , and when i try to play rome, my graphics are the worst possible. i tried everything, to change options in rome, and in the computer... still nothing. Is this card working for this game ? Which one works for sure ? I ve been told i need to download and then update a driver catalyst 5.5; i will try that and if it still not works, what should i do ?

Many thanks in advance

[General Sun]

Ohhh, x300 is a pretty low end card as of itself, and SE probably means that it's clocked downwards. Getting the latest driver should help, and if it doesn't, then there is nothing you can do except get another card.

[The Thracian]

you will play rome with a X300 But it will only be lowest settings for you. A geforce 5 series will do you fine

[Proximus]

Moved to the basement.

[XBebop]

Might want to buy a new card, like a Radeon x1600 512mb Pro. $129 on newegg.com

[rayzzz]

Getting a 6600GT-6800GS should hold you until next year when vista is released with all the next-gen stuff. Dont get a 5 series cause the performance difference wont be really that great and would probably be waste of money.

[Filip_bre]

i bought a qulality pc a week ago including a x300, i have rome tot war and i still cant play rome with correct graphics since. I dont what to do, i tried and did everything and still nothing. I was looking for last drivers on the net, they were makin no difference. The thing is that i dont understand anything about how all that work and what i should do and how; just wanna play this game. Please, tell me what i should do, or buy, or download and how. Is it really such a pisstake to start playin a game properly ?!-</ confused.


Thanks in advance for eventual help

[Boudicca]

a pc with an X300 in it is not what I would call a qualitiy pc those days. Whats your system specifications and what was the cost of the system (just to evalualte if you got a system worth the price)

[Garbarsardar]

RTW seems to perform better with nVidia. Although this has been said many times I can tell you that the XT800 128 and the 7800GTX 256 did not have a tremendous difference, meaning discernible during gameplay. I think a 6 series nVidia with 2G ram and an Axp 3200+ will be fine.

[NobleNick]

Another data point for ya: RTW runs OK with large units and increased vegetation, unit and tree detail using a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. I CTD every once in a while; and I think it is because the card and my CPU are at war with one another; but when it works, it works great.

[Filip_bre]

i have this processor 3ghz,fsb 8000, 2 mo cache
512 mo (2 x 256) ddr2 533mhz
hard disk 160 Go
and a video card radeon ati x300 hyper memory
Now i dont know what it is, when i play rome the graphics are so low, even when i put all on the maximum. Is it the card that is too bad, and if so, should i buy a radeon 9800 ati ? is it gud for my computer ? what is the best i should buy ? (let it be 150 euros the maximum i would spend)


thanks for any help

[rayzzz]

i think you need more ram(1gb+) and defintely a new Graphics Card. 6800GS or 6600GT or X1600 are good choices. dont get a 9800pro

[Titus]

Yes upgrade your ram, I would go with a 6600 card or 6800 because there pretty cheap now.

[NobleNick]

I think this post is not off-topic for this thread: I blew out my computer, which had an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Replaced the power supply yesterday; but the MOBO and possibly CPU are toast also.

While buying the power supply, I saw a deal for $217 for a MOBO with integrated nVida GeForce 6100 chipset and an AMD Athlon 64. The salesman says this MOBO has great graphics; but, having been a salesman, I don't trust these guys any farther than I can chuck 'em; and integrated on-the-board graphics have always been lame. But the reviews of the dedicated 6100 are OK.

So, does anyone here know if I can expect the MOBO with integrated nVidia 6100 to be a step up from my dedicated ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card?

Thanks for any help you can give.

[HorseArcher]

I think this post is not off-topic for this thread: I blew out my computer, which had an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Replaced the power supply yesterday; but the MOBO and possibly CPU are toast also.

While buying the power supply, I saw a deal for $217 for a MOBO with integrated nVida GeForce 6100 chipset and an AMD Athlon 64. The salesman says this MOBO has great graphics; but, having been a salesman, I don't trust these guys any farther than I can chuck 'em; and integrated on-the-board graphics have always been lame. But the reviews of the dedicated 6100 are OK.

So, does anyone here know if I can expect the MOBO with integrated nVidia 6100 to be a step up from my dedicated ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card?

Thanks for any help you can give.

DO NOT BUY. Anything with integrated graphics is not designed for gaming or games will run crap on it, trust me on this.

Just think of it, you won't be able to upgrade it, especially if it has no slots for PCI express slots for graphics upgrading.

I say, save more money to get a motherboard/CPU combo (and memory) and get a separate graphics card for it.

I will not recommend any Motherboard for anyone with integrated graphics, it's a waste of money on the long run.

if you want to go the cheapest first (but still upgradable) go with something similar:

MB & CPU & Memory Combo w/ AMD Athlon 64 3500 939 Pin (254 bucks with the cheapes config)
http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=13911

+ get one of the graphics cards from the "bang for the buck" thread above (PCI-Express)

Of course you can go a lot better, but that means you need to invest more money:

go look around here:
http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboar...with%5Fmemory/


on a personal note: I'd rather not get anything if i couldn't afford a capable MB/CPU/Memory/graphics card combo, instead of getting an integrated motherboard. There is a reason why it's so cheap, trust me.

[NobleNick]

DO NOT BUY. Anything with integrated graphics is not designed for gaming or games will run crap on it, trust me on this.

on a personal note: I'd rather not get anything if i couldn't afford a capable MB/CPU/Memory/graphics card combo, instead of getting an integrated motherboard. There is a reason why it's so cheap, trust me.

Archer thanks for the reference to the "bang for the buck" page. Overlooked that in my haste to post. I went back through and feel a bit more savvy.

I understand that integrated graphics = not a high end gaming machine. My question was: will a new MOBO with integrated 6100 graphics and a decent CPU (e.g. Athlon 64) outperform a 2 year old MOBO with a decent 32-bit AMD and a dedicated ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. I want to be up and running in days, and my options are:

1.) get a clone or slight upgrade of what I have: 32-bit AMD and new MOBO and reinstall the 9800 Pro

2.) Go up to a 64-bit AMD and MOBO with integrated 6100 graphics.

3.) I might possibly be able to go up to Intel and reinstall 9800 Pro.

[HorseArcher]

Archer thanks for the reference to the "bang for the buck" page. Overlooked that in my haste to post. I went back through and feel a bit more savvy.

I understand that integrated graphics = not a high end gaming machine. My question was: will a new MOBO with integrated 6100 graphics and a decent CPU (e.g. Athlon 64) outperform a 2 year old MOBO with a decent 32-bit AMD and a dedicated ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. I want to be up and running in days, and my options are:

1.) get a clone or slight upgrade of what I have: 32-bit AMD and new MOBO and reinstall the 9800 Pro

2.) Go up to a 64-bit AMD and MOBO with integrated 6100 graphics.

3.) I might possibly be able to go up to Intel and reinstall 9800 Pro.

It really depends that if you want to play games while having that system.


It really depends on the type of CPU you are getting since RTW is fairly CPU-intensive game, not graphics card, although it helps to have a somewhat ok card.

I should say that i was playing with no problems on my AMD Athlon XP 2600 (and before that the athlon 1700 !!) with 512MB of RAM and I also had a 9800Pro installed. Matter effect I had an ATI 9600Pro to start out back in the release time of RTW and I had no problems beside the game having some bugs then, but still i was playing on large settings and all options maxed, except the Anti aliasing turned off.

I say (and only say it if you just cannot afford a better equipment), to go with either option 1 or No 3 on your list if you won't be getting a new system for months and you surely know that your 9800Pro card is not damaged.

Look at this price:
MB & CPU Combo w/ AMD Sempron 3300+ $144.99
http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=13530

+ use your 9800 Pro card in it

even better:
MB & CPU Combo w/ P4 2.4GHz - 533MHz FSB - 1MB L2 Cache (Prescott)
Price: (w/ Free Shipping) $164.62
http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=13667

+ use your 9800 Pro card in it

Motherboard & CPU Combo w/ Athlon 64 2800 Price: (w/ Free Shipping) $139.97

http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=14411

+ use your 9800 Pro card in it

and of course you can add more on those web pages what you want to include, such as memory (512MB RAM- 55 bucks)


so why would you get a MoBo only with integrated graphics for $217, if for that money you can get an Athlon 64 2800 AND memory?

edit: HOLD on a second!

Are you sure it had integrated graphics on the board you saw? ?? If it had integrated graphics, did it have an option for PCI-Express slot for grahics?
are you sure it said "inegrated graphics card" and not just Geforce chipset ?

If it was something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138268

then go for it, but not for 217 dollars but more like $69.00 and PCI-Express slot available for further graphics card upgrades.

[NobleNick]

It really depends that if you want to play games while having that system.

It really depends on the type of CPU you are getting since RTW is fairly CPU-intensive game, not graphics card, although it helps to have a somewhat ok card.

Yeah, I see what you mean about the relative worth of the graphics card vs. CPU. I went with option 1, but had a really hard time getting a MOBO with an AGP slot; -AND- **NO** 32-bit Athons are available at any of the stores I visited. So I did something I said I wouldn't do, and got a 3.1GHz Sempron. I plugged my original 1GB RAM and 9800Pro (with 256MB) in, and tested it last night. The game appears to have slowed somewhat over the previous setup with a 2GHz Athlon.

Look at this price:
MB & CPU Combo w/ AMD Sempron 3300+ $144.99
http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=13530

+ use your 9800 Pro card in it

even better:
MB & CPU Combo w/ P4 2.4GHz - 533MHz FSB - 1MB L2 Cache (Prescott)
Price: (w/ Free Shipping) $164.62
http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=13667

+ use your 9800 Pro card in it

Motherboard & CPU Combo w/ Athlon 64 2800 Price: (w/ Free Shipping) $139.97

http://www.smksuperstore.com/catalog...m.asp?ID=14411

+ use your 9800 Pro card in it

and of course you can add more on those web pages what you want to include, such as memory (512MB RAM- 55 bucks)


so why would you get a MoBo only with integrated graphics for $217, if for that money you can get an Athlon 64 2800 AND memory?

Good question. I paid $160 + tax for the Sempron 3.1GHz, because I wanted it *NOW*, but am rethinking the folly of my haste. I *did* make sure that I could bring everything back for a full refund if I wasnn't pleased; so am thinking I will order that Pentium or Athlon 64 that you showed, and return this other junk.

Are you sure it had integrated graphics on the board you saw? ?? If it had integrated graphics, did it have an option for PCI-Express slot for grahics?
are you sure it said "inegrated graphics card" and not just Geforce chipset ?

No, it was integrated nVidia 6100 graphics on the MOBO, plus an Athlon 64. No AGP. DOn't recall if there was a PCI express.

Thank you for all the wonderful advice. I appreciate it. I will try to remember to let you know how this pans out.

[Incinerate_IV]

For Filip_bre,

you really need to upgrade the ram, and the video card. Since the video card use 'hyper memory', its taking its memory from the system ram, so now you got even less ram to work with, and then you factor the 180 - 250 mb of ram Windows XP uses...