radicalism in asian religions?

[megalitho]

I know radical islamists, christians and jews, but I don´t know radical hindus or buddhists. Is there radicalism in asian religions?

[hellheaven1987]

Ikko-Ikki... I assume you have not played Shogun yet...

There were also religious organizations such as Chinese Yellow Turban, Chinese Boxers, Chinese Taiping rebels (Taiping rebellion is an interesting one).

[RollingWave]

Ikko-Ikki... I assume you have not played Shogun yet...

There were also religious organizations such as Chinese Yellow Turban, Chinese Boxers, Chinese Taiping rebels (Taiping rebellion is an interesting one).

Yeah but how much of them were really "religious" though. or were they rebellions obviously spurn by other problems but carry some religious flavors ?

[hellheaven1987]

Yeah but how much of them were really "religious" though. or were they rebellions obviously spurn by other problems but carry some religious flavors ?

That does not matter, since majority of religious unrests happened due to mostly social and economical reasons instead religious reasons, in Asia, Europe or whereever else.

Taiping Rebellion is rather an interesting case since the patron deity is supposely Christian God, but I don't see anything Christian about that rebellion besides that point. Yet Taiping leaders made a strong focus on that point for propaganda purpose.

[Farnan]

Yeah but how much of them were really "religious" though. or were they rebellions obviously spurn by other problems but carry some religious flavors ?

Couldn't that be said about most religious extremist groups?

About religious extremists in Asian Relgions:

Hindutva - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindutva
Sikh Khalistan Movement - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalist...litant_outfits
State Shinto - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Shinto
Aum Shinrikyo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo
Yellow Turban Rebellion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Turban_Rebellion
Ikko-Ikki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikko-ikki
Boxers - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fists_of_Righteous_Harmony

Bold are current movements.

[Denny Crane!]

It doesn't lend itself as easily to extremism, but it does happen.

[Farnan]

It doesn't lend itself as easily to extremism, but it does happen.

I just named some pretty major ones...

[Himster]

There are constant pogroms in India.

[Denny Crane!]

I don't think they were that major, mostly focused around India where there are very large political tensions. This is a major distinguishable point to me, we can quite easily point towards where radical elements of religious violence are actually political in nature and then we can be more specific and find areas where it is religion exploiting the politics (Taleban for instance)

[PointOfViewGun]

Yeah but how much of them were really "religious" though. or were they rebellions obviously spurn by other problems but carry some religious flavors ?

Which is true for any other religion.

I don't think they were that major, mostly focused around India where there are very large political tensions. This is a major distinguishable point to me, we can quite easily point towards where radical elements of religious violence are actually political in nature and then we can be more specific and find areas where it is religion exploiting the politics (Taleban for instance)

Farnan's post proves that they can land themselves equally to violence if they're squeezed enough.

[Denny Crane!]

Which is true for any other religion.




Farnan's post proves that they can land themselves equally to violence if they're squeezed enough.

Well thanks for that rather redundant post. Not much to do with what I said.

[Dr. Croccer]

I it is religion exploiting the politics (Taleban for instance)

What? The religion exploited the politics? The real reason for the emergence of the Taliban was the political situation following the Soviet withdrawal. There wouldn't have been a Taliban if Afghanistan hadn't descended into a heavy militarized patchwork of Islamist warlords supported by theocracies.

Judiaism, Christianity and Islam are the only real offenders.

Learn some history.

[Helm]

Learn some history.

I stand by what I said. The pagans did the odd human sacrifice but generally people there were going to kill anyway.

[Dr. Croccer]

I stand by what I said. The pagans did the odd human sacrifice but generally people there were going to kill anyway.

Yeah, it's not like the Greeks and Romans tried to impose their leaderworship on everyone and were hostile to those who rejected them.

OH WAIT.

[Helm]

Yeah, it's not like the Greeks and Romans tried to impose their leaderworship on everyone and were hostile to those who rejected them.

OH WAIT.

They didn't do any of that specifically in the name of Zeus/Jupiter. Zeus/Jupiter was just kind of there. What the Romans didn't like was people rejecting the divinity of their Emperor. That caused some unrest with the Jews and particularly Christians who for some strange reason thought he was just some kind of a regular man. The Roman Emperors could even perform miracles you know? But other than that they were religiously pretty tolerant. Certainly no holy wars, inquistions, heretic burnings or anything of that sort.

[1.21 GW]

Shiv Sena i think they are called. They are pretty serious about the whole Mother Hind thing. The Vietnamese, Kampucheans, Burmese etc can be pretty fanatical i.e. willing to sacrifice themselves for a cause too perhaps not for religion though.

But nothing beats the muslim fanatics though. Those guys will always out-fanatacise everyone else.

[AngryTitusPullo]

Not to say radical but generally I can see easterners (Asians) practices religion more seriously than the west. Doesn't matter what religion Islam, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist etc.

I can feel that Filipinos (is that the correct spelling) are more Christians than Europeans themselves.

[1.21 GW]

Not to say radical but generally I can see easterners (Asians) practices religion more seriously than the west. Doesn't matter what religion Islam, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist etc.

I can feel that Filipinos (is that the correct spelling) are more Christians than Europeans themselves.

i dunno. I think you are right about local culture influencing how religious people are. For example, the Portugese and Spanish are much more serious about their religion than France or the UK. Same for places like Brazil. Also look at Utah or "the bible belt" in America compared to NY or California. Its weird.

[AngryTitusPullo]

i dunno. I think you are right about local culture influencing how religious people are. For example, the Portugese and Spanish are much more serious about their religion than France or the UK. Same for places like Brazil. Also look at Utah or "the bible belt" in America compared to NY or California. Its weird.

I have Indian friend here in my office who either Christians, Hindu and some Muslims. Most if not all are faily religious whatever their religion.

Chinese are either Christians of Buddhist but they're not really into religion thing.

Malays are generally muslim by birth but not all are religious.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

There are buddhist extremists; they are all posting on TWC ZING