Script malfunction

**Boriak** · August 13, 2011, 02:06 AM

I have an 1.2 EB installation on Alexander engine. Except Forced Diplomacy Minimod and the AI victory conditions, I use no additional mods.

A few days ago it started to happen: when I load any saved game and click a city to get the script trigger, the messenger pops up with no speech cloud appearing. The 'show me how' button doesn't highlight. If I press the messenger himself, he will just disappear without a word. I tried pressing the "?" button in the Overview menu to get the victory conditions. Same thing. Therefore I assume the script hasn't been activated at all.

Incidentally, my forced diplomacy minimod failed on me a few weeks ago. Whenever I would activate it during diplomacy talks, the game would CTD on me. Somehow I think these two problems might be related.

It's hard to imagine the scripts themselves to be damaged. They're just text and I checked them. So something in the game must have been corrupted for them to stop working. I haven't done any changing to the game for some time now (did some unit stats tweaking but that was months ago).
Is this something people have seen before? Is the re-installation the only way or are there ways to work around this? Somehow I doubt I'm the first person with this problem.

**XSamatan** · August 13, 2011, 10:40 AM

Sometimes RTW corrupts savegames, this could have been happened. To check this, start a new campaign and start the script. (If it also crashes-->reinstallation)
Did you always check 'Reset advisor' before opening FD?

Are you 100% sure that the files weren't changed anyhow?

And last but not least, the obvious:
Think back to the starting point of the problems; did you change the installation somewhat, did you install new programs that could affect EB?

XSamatan

**Boriak** · August 14, 2011, 10:00 AM

New campaigns are affected as much as the old ones so I doubt my saved games are corrupt.

I have two installations of EB, one with RTW engine, the other with Alex engine. The one with Alex engine is malfunctioning while the one with RTW works fine. The problem is I play most of my campaigns on Alex.

So: reinstall?

Edit: I have a clean RTW Vanilla folder with all expansions ready for such cases. Is it enough to delete the folder with the corrupt installation and install EB in the Vanilla folder? Or do I need to uninstall EB and RTW before reinstalling?

**XSamatan** · August 14, 2011, 01:30 PM

EB is not officially suported on Alex, use the minimod made by Maksimus.
A reinstallation helps in many cases, worth a try.

XSamatan

**Boriak** · August 15, 2011, 10:45 AM

I reinstalled EB with Alex engine, including the Forced Diplomacy mod. While the EB script trigger does pop up, hitting the "?" mark in diplomatic negotiations still causes a CTD (and yes, I reset the advisor in Game Options before doing so). So the Diplomacy mod is still out.

**XSamatan** · August 15, 2011, 10:58 AM

If you installed FD right this would be very odd and new to me as I'm also having an EB-build based on Alex and FD works fine there...
Maybe Vanilla is somehow changed, any other mods installed?

**Boriak** · August 15, 2011, 01:10 PM

No other mods to speak of. I mentioned the AI victory conditions but I have that on both EB installations and I have it for a long time. The Diplomacy mod problem occured a few weeks ago. I changed nothing at that time.

**XSamatan** · August 15, 2011, 05:04 PM

Well thats odd. FD changes nothing within EB. Did you replace both FD's files and EBBS with a clean version?

Last but not least a complete reinstallation of both RTW/ALX and EB would be my last guess, as I said, never encountered that problem before.

XSamatan

**Boriak** · August 18, 2011, 02:19 PM

I've found the solution. I never thought it would work but I replaced the EXPORT_ADVICE and EXPORT_DESCR_ADVICE files that are altered by the Forced Diplomacy mod. As I said, I have two installations of EB. I took the files from the working installation and replaced those in the faulty installation.

The thing is I've made a new installation of EB in between and those new faulty files came directly from the mod's zip file. So the mystery is still not solved but at least the mod is working now. I used it to grant Pahlava some Ptolemaic holdings. Hopefully, I won't have to chase the yellow monster as far as India now. And I would love to battle a strong Pahlava for a change...