Call of Warhammer Revamp; new map, models, units and more (Released for 1.4.4)

[Elitewolf]

Yeah, that's pretty much what I had in mind as well. Although I'd add that the dark elves exchange the armor for speed and attack.

All in all, except with the vampires, I only changed the attack and defense stats, leaving the numbers as they were. I tried to keep the total attack or defense about as high as you had it, dunno if I succeeded there though

[Kvaccian]

Yes, I just reinstalled it in that order and it still won't work. It goes to the mod's start-up loading screen and crashes a few seconds later. My desktop cursor is visible and can be moved the entire time too. There is no error message, it just shuts down. I know for sure that the problem is with both export_descr files because I made backups of the originals and after installing everything else those two files are the only things that, when put where they're supposed to go, crash my game. Please, I really would like to play this fantastic-looking mod. Any advice?

[Toho]

do you have a clean 1.4.4 english CoW installed? maybe you have a submod installed and that is conflicting with my own submod. if not then this is pretty wierd, are you sure you downloaded 1.6 fix into your data folder and the EDU(vanilla or edited) dont forget to rename so it replaces you current one.

[Elitewolf]

Also Kvaccian, don't forget to upload your error log! It's a real help in fixing these problems

[Kvaccian]

I'm fairly sure I'm doing this right. I extracted the contents of the main zip into my data folder, extracted the 1.5 stuff on top of that, replaced the descr_buildings in 1.6 then the descr_units. It is a clean install of 1.4.4 English translation with Music. I got it all in one straight out. How do I upload my error log?

[Elitewolf]

I'm fairly sure I'm doing this right. I extracted the contents of the main zip into my data folder, extracted the 1.5 stuff on top of that, replaced the descr_buildings in 1.6 then the descr_units. It is a clean install of 1.4.4 English translation with Music. I got it all in one straight out. How do I upload my error log?

Find the go advanced button beside the submit reply button. Somewhere below the text window is a button "manage attachments" which allows you to upload files.

[Kvaccian]

Sorry- I meant to say how do I find or create an error log? I don't suppose it auto-generates?

[Toho]

it does it will be in your main medieval folder called logs

[Kvaccian]

I've tried uploading the file in there, called warhammer_system.log and tried attaching it but it doesn't seem to work. Might have something to do with the fact that it's 142MB in size.

What now?

[Toho]

you must put it in a zip file and then attach it.

[jnecros]

Nicely done Toho! These are welcome changes, and they were a breeze to install. Thanks

[boatie]

Toho,

It's so great that you are adding so much to the mod. Great work.

I looked over your EDU, here are some observations. Ignore anything that appears as a criticism. It's not meant like that at all. I love the changes you made, but the EDU appeared incomplete because some factions appeared not to have been tweaked yet.

1. Changes look good - you have made cavalry deadly, as they should be. However, if they are truly elite, they should be rare. In my revision of your EDU, I made them all take longer to recruit, or I increased costs or upkeep, or some combination of the three. My idea of elite unit is: pretty rare, low in size (in comparison to other units), costly, deadly, and resilient.
2. Some factions tweaked, others not. Loved what you did with Empire, elves, and Vampires. Kislev, Chaos, foot mercenaries, and even Orks appear underpowered because they did not appear to be tweaked as much. Building on what you did, I created my own tweaked EDU, using it to update all these other factions. Now their elite can now hang with your changes.
3. Your tweaks for Empire artillery appears to make them quite overpowered, compared to the artillery of all other factions. I think empire artillery, with exception of Nuln, is about quantity over quality (opposite for dwarfs and elves). Also, there should be some balance between power versus distance. Artillery that has both too strong (unless offset by long recruit / high cost). With your tweaks, some of the cannons are now more powerful that the mages, which so never be the case. I think you might want to revisit this.
4. I combined Reiksfart's units to your submod. Since I like LD's stats for Dwarfs, I used those instead of what you had. A dwarf elite (e.g., elder) should be able to hang 1v1 with any knight unit. That wasn't the case with how you had it. LD vision of dwarfs are: they are few in number (take long to recruit), extremely tough (high armor), resilient (high hp), and have deadly but limited artillery (costly and long to recruit). Then add to this, Reiksfarts slayers. I also combined what I liked of LD and your stats for Orks. My impression is that even's LD's version of Orks would now be chewed by your tweaked Empire units.

I will let you know how this plays. Starting another campaign with this. Thanks for the work you put into it.

[Kvaccian]

Wow. Only 1.8MBs? That is crazy compression. Here you go.

[Gigantus]

Wow. Only 1.8MBs? That is crazy compression. Here you go.

It's the reason why we asked for compressed logs

The game goes into a tail spin about here (line 1190187):
01:04:52.548 [bink] [trace] [mods/Call_of_Warhammer/data/fmv/menu/DUMP0000.BIK]Catch up (1)

And eventually crashes about here (line 1197098):
01:04:56.110 [bink] [debug] [mods/Call_of_Warhammer/data/fmv/menu/DUMP0000.BIK]Pause on

There is nothing before the tailspin that indicates what caused this error. Please try to describe in detail your action just before the crash.

[Kvaccian]

Firstly, thanks a bunch for your analysis. I don't know the first thing about this stuff.

All I did was add the two export_descr files to the Data folder and then it shuts down a few seconds after entering the first loading screen of the mod. That's literally the only difference- I've surely isolated it to those files, the only thing I do to make it crash is add those export_descr files.

[Gigantus]

I haven't used those files myself, so I won't be able to help you further.

If you still have your original files then upload them together with the new files and I can have a look what the difference is and if it could cause the crash.

[Kvaccian]

Here you go.

[Toho]

Thanks Boatie and yes like i said before the EDU is still a work in progress and i have some other plans as well for it for example im going to be changing the High elf general units from phoenix guard to sword masters and right now in the current version the phoenix guard has 18 attack, 26 defense and 2 health but there is only 30 men in that unit, im changing that from 30 to 100 like a goblin unit but instead im making the recruitment/replenishment of this unit extremely tricky and bothersome; hows 5 turns to recruit, 50 turns to replenish, 5k price tag and k upkeep. what im trying to do now is to give special units to each faction, very much like Barbarian Invasion in rome where you will only have a few of these X units which made you be super careful around them.
im making this change because of lore and gameplay reasons, the phoenix guard are many but rare on the battle field, i wanted to make them like a special company, one solid unit not just 30 here, 40 there.
also one of my biggest problems is dwarves i have to make sure their defense is not too high so they would not decimate everyone in their auto-resolves. balancing both game play and AI with the EDU is kind of tricky...
also i still have to work on chaos, Kislev, Border prince and kind of redo everything in the EDU to rebalanced stuff, anyways its a work in progress but i'll try to post updates as regurarly as i can, i want to completely freshen the gameplay.

[Ekaddon]

So what do i need to only have the new map with added settlements? I tried to find out what files myself but to no luck.

[Toho]

just copy the map and text folder in data and that should do it i believe.