Another boring "Can I run Shogun 2 Thread".

[Pumba-Fuhrer]

Sorry about this. There's probably been hundreds of these threads.

I would use the "Can You Run It" site, but it's not working for some reason. Anyway, I've been thinking of buying this PC (link at bottom). What do you think? Shogun material?

Thanks,

Pumba-Fuhrer

http://www.amazon.co.uk/shinobee-HEX...3186273&sr=8-5

[Capt. Caveman]

Sure its good it will run the crap out of it. But get an intel I7 dude. Look at the benchmarks http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

[talljoe]

Sorry about this. There's probably been hundreds of these threads.

I would use the "Can You Run It" site, but it's not working for some reason. Anyway, I've been thinking of buying this PC (link at bottom). What do you think? Shogun material?

Thanks,

Pumba-Fuhrer

http://www.amazon.co.uk/shinobee-HEX...3186273&sr=8-5

I'll make a few comments. I don't know the conversion rate of pounds to dollars, but as far as the hardware:

1) The six-core processor isn't particularly well suited to gaming. I'm sure it's fine, but most games can barely use more than one core, let alone 6.

2) The ram could/should be faster. look for 1600 or 1800 instead of 1333. Maybe also look for 8gb.

3) The 6870 should be fine, but it's only the 1gb version... S2 needs 2gb vram to display all the graphics without downgrading your settings. The 6950 2gb is, i've read, a good option (or NV equivalent).

4) Do you know if Shinobee is a respected/reliable builder? Do some research to make sure. There are lots of builders in the US that suck, and others that are excellent.

5) I'm sure, all in all, that machine could run most games at ultra. S2 is a pain in the ass, though, so don't be surprised if you can't run it at full graphics. (E.g., I have an i7 950 at 3.7 ghz, 6gb 1600 ram, and a 1.5gb GTX 580... and I can't run it at full graphics. Not enough vram.)

[Pumba-Fuhrer]

£490 = $800

1) Ah. Well, if you're sure it'll be fine, and you most probably know more than I do about computers, I'll go with you and say it'll be fine too.
2) I thought that too. I'll get an 8GB stick when I order it as well.
3) I'm not all too fussed about playing it on ultra settings. As long as I can play it, then I'm happy enough.
4) I have, personally, never heard of him before but both reviews say it got there okay and he's got 100% feedback so I assume he's fine.
5) *Insert super mega happy smiley*

EDIT: I'm more than happy with buying this thing. Being able to run even Empire Total War on ultra will be a dream come true.
Also, Windows 7 included ftw!

[AlfonsoVIII]

shinobee seems like a cheap company putting parts together and calling themselves a manufacturer. their youtube channel got terminated and I cannot find a website for them, so i would stay away, let me see if something on amazon is better.

email them, i really want to know the Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise Trialversion German that comes with it. that is a 90 day trial so what happens after 90 days? do u need to buy windows 7? by ordering the parts myself and building it, i could save 100 bucks, which leads me to believe they might be using really cheap partys. I would really ask for make and model of every component, even size of RAM sticks, 4gb x 1 or 2gb x 2. Know what you are buying.

[Pumba-Fuhrer]

I'll probably make enough money to buy a Windows 7 or Vista too. And I'll do some more investigating.

[AlfonsoVIII]

also buy a new power supply with it, the brand name is garbage and since the case and power supply are sold together for 46 pounds, that is also a red flag. they put decent components in a cheap box with a cheap power supply, your just asking for trouble.

also, since you seem like your budget can be bigger than 500 pounds, what is your max budget?

[Bolkonsky]

Moved to The Basement.

[Jaketh]

Phenom X6 with a 6870 is a pretty potent combo, it wont be running on Ultra but high settings with AA down a few notches shouldn't be a problem, also your going to want to OC the processor a bit, 2.8ghz isnt going to cut it for Total war games

[GasMask]

Yes of course that machine will run it the question we have is for how long the components seem on the cheap side.

I would invest in some well known brands that way you have better warranty status of your components along with that you have a fine knowing if something goes wrong your much better covered than these cheaper counter parts made by company's who dont a crap about you they just want the cash.


Just to say the above my I7 Quad is 1.86Ghz shogun 2 is a joke to my machine.

[Jaketh]

Just to say the above my I7 Quad is 1.86Ghz shogun 2 is a joke to my machine.

Actually Shogun 2 would run like at 1.86ghz the only reason you can run it is because of turbo boost. Ive never met anyone that actually wasted the obscene amount of money required to buy that overpriced garbage

[GasMask]

Actually Shogun 2 would run like at 1.86ghz the only reason you can run it is because of turbo boost. Ive never met anyone that actually wasted the obscene amount of money required to buy that overpriced garbage

Provide some information what your saying please about your processor needs to be higher than..... 2.8ghz.


I dont see how you can literally tell someone they need to have a higher processor count to run shogun 2 where do you get this information from ?


I would just like to add the following information regarding the above comment on a list of specifications that require you to run the video game.

Minimum Specs (Required for playing Total War: Shogun 2):

2 GHz Intel Dual Core processor / 2.6 GHz Intel Single Core processor , or AMD equivalent (with SSE2)
1GB RAM (XP), 2GB RAM (Vista / Windows7)
256 MB DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card (shader model 3)
1024×768 minimum screen resolution
20GB free hard disk space

Recommended Specs (Recommended for optimum game play of Total War: Shogun 2):

2nd Generation Intel® Core™i5 processor (or greater), or AMD equivalent
2GB RAM (XP), 4GB RAM (Vista / Windows7)
AMD Radeon HD 5000 and 6000 series graphics cards or equivalent DirectX 11 compatible graphics card
1280×1024 minimum screen resolution
20GB free hard disk space

[Darkpriest667]

Provide some information what your saying please about your processor needs to be higher than..... 2.8ghz.


I dont see how you can literally tell someone they need to have a higher processor count to run shogun 2 where do you get this information from ?


I would just like to add the following information regarding the above comment on a list of specifications that require you to run the video game.

Minimum Specs (Required for playing Total War: Shogun 2):

2 GHz Intel Dual Core processor / 2.6 GHz Intel Single Core processor , or AMD equivalent (with SSE2)
1GB RAM (XP), 2GB RAM (Vista / Windows7)
256 MB DirectX 9.0c compatible graphics card (shader model 3)
1024×768 minimum screen resolution
20GB free hard disk space

Recommended Specs (Recommended for optimum game play of Total War: Shogun 2):

2nd Generation Intel® Core™i5 processor (or greater), or AMD equivalent
2GB RAM (XP), 4GB RAM (Vista / Windows7)
AMD Radeon HD 5000 and 6000 series graphics cards or equivalent DirectX 11 compatible graphics card
1280×1024 minimum screen resolution
20GB free hard disk space

Because until you alt tab out and change the affinity to one processor then alt tab again later and change it to all processors Shogun only runs on 1 core. And thats a fact jack. at 3.2 ghz stock when loading and when playing shogun 2 it runs on 1 core... and it runs 100% on that core until I trick windows into running it on all cores. The game was never programmed in with multicore support.

AMD 1090T 3.2 Ghz Windows 7 ultimate GT 430 1 GB

Intel Q9000 2.0 Ghz Windows 7 Home premium GTX 260m 1 GB

Intel i7 940 2.93 ghz Windows 7 professional Radeon 6950 2GB

It ran 100% on 1 core on all 3 of these processors. So this isn't a me thing this is a you thing... Fix it in a patch. Thats pathetic... I dont know ANYONE not even idiots that dont know about computers that don't have a dual core or better. Optimize it for multithreading NOW. I am sorry but in my mind this should be your #1 priority in patchwork.

Thats from my review of the game last month. I have seen no evidence that they have fixed the problem. BTW on the Intel Q9000.. which is in my asus g72 gaming laptop it ran so hot after 10 minutes and so crappy I had to turn the laptop off.. and I was running a cooling pad.

[GasMask]

I cant say i have had this problem the game runs flawlessly on my I7 and my crossfire setup can max the game with smooth silky gameplay.


But yes indeed if i remember correctly the G72 only has 1 cooling fan solution where as the G73 and the Alienware M17X has 2 cooling solutions.


OH and jaketh you have upset me saying my system is garbage its actually a good firm build if you look after them they can last years everyone slates them for being over priced this system was one of the most powerful rigs in the world back in early 2010 it would cost around 3k+ now i bought mine for £1400 a refurbishment also.


I never gave in to them shiny new alienwares i bought one of the old boys off the shelf and i plan to take good care of him.

[The Black Reaper]

I cant say i have had this problem the game runs flawlessly on my I7 and my crossfire setup can max the game with smooth silky gameplay.


But yes indeed if i remember correctly the G72 only has 1 cooling fan solution where as the G73 and the Alienware M17X has 2 cooling solutions.


OH and jaketh you have upset me saying my system is garbage its actually a good firm build if you look after them they can last years everyone slates them for being over priced this system was one of the most powerful rigs in the world back in early 2010 it would cost around 3k+ now i bought mine for £1400 a refurbishment also.


I never gave in to them shiny new alienwares i bought one of the old boys off the shelf and i plan to take good care of him.

1. Turbo Boost
2. I could probably build a better computer for the price of what you bought yours for
3. Alienware is like Macs. You pay more for the brand and logo and receive ok parts
4. Surprised you didn't know that when playing shogun 2 your CPU boosted up to a higher clock to be able to run the game
5. Shogun 2 is more CPU intensive like the other total war games have been before
6. System isn't crap but you paid the same amount it would of cost you to build that system last year.

[GasMask]

1. Turbo Boost
2. I could probably build a better computer for the price of what you bought yours for
3. Alienware is like Macs. You pay more for the brand and logo and receive ok parts
4. Surprised you didn't know that when playing shogun 2 your CPU boosted up to a higher clock to be able to run the game
5. Shogun 2 is more CPU intensive like the other total war games have been before
6. System isn't crap but you paid the same amount it would of cost you to build that system last year.

I am mobile i have to have a superior system with excellent warranty this system is perfect for what i need it for i do not care much for desktops they stay in one place where as i can travel where ever i want with my alienware machine.

Indeed your points are valid i could of built a nice PC but my preferences do not need a pc i need a laptop capable of maxing today's games and that's exactly what it does it smooths everything out just nice again this machine is a refurb i never bought it new.

Not many people get to own alienware im glad i own one and im going to look after it as much as possible .

[Pumba-Fuhrer]

I've changed my mine, and I'll build my own system, based on this thread. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=473279
ASUS M5A78L AMD mATX Motherboard. £35.86
AMD Phendom II X4 840 3.2GHz CPU. 95w. £75.71
4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz Kingston RAM. £28.00 (Maybe 6GB if I can afford Windows 7 64bit)
Asus Nvidia GeForce 560 GPU. £130
500MB External HDD (Maybe)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit (Maybe)
　
Cost (For now):
£269.57 (Without HDD and Win7)
£363.56 (With HDD and Win7)
Ja or nein?

[Crazyeyesreaper]

6850 is DX11 GTX 275 is DX10

275 is old and slower then the 6850 it uses far more power,

and is and End of Life product

the only good thing going for a 275 is getting 2x of them cheap ive seen them as low as $75-80 usd used. brand new there a waste.

also really wish people would stop posting passmark benchmarks there software is utter its an even bigger joke then Futuremarks software

if you want bench numbers on cpus do it right or not at all. which basically means,

Never ever buy something based on 1 review 1 set of benchmark software and 1 persons recommendation always read up on what the products are and there capabilities.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

[Pumba-Fuhrer]

Did I write 275? I meant to write 560, sorry.

Updated list:

ASUS M5A78L AMD mATX Motherboard. £35.86
AMD Phendom II X4 840 3.2GHz CPU. 95w. £75.71
4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz Kingston RAM. £28.00 (Maybe 6GB if I can afford Windows 7 64bit)
Asus Nvidia GeForce 560 GPU. £130
500MB External HDD (Maybe)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit (Maybe)
　
Cost (For now):
£269.57 (Without HDD and Win7)
£363.56 (With HDD and Win7)

[GasMask]

Did I write 275? I meant to write 560, sorry.

Updated list:

ASUS M5A78L AMD mATX Motherboard. £35.86
AMD Phendom II X4 840 3.2GHz CPU. 95w. £75.71
4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz Kingston RAM. £28.00 (Maybe 6GB if I can afford Windows 7 64bit)
Asus Nvidia GeForce 560 GPU. £130
500MB External HDD (Maybe)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit (Maybe)
　
Cost (For now):
£269.57 (Without HDD and Win7)
£363.56 (With HDD and Win7)

YES.

You wanted to run shogun 2 i presume as you said above you clearly stated run this machine wont just run it it will gobble it up alive the parts are sound the selection is great cant really say anything more than even when you do get this machine once self built thier will be always room for upgrades.