Too Easy To Make Money!!

**doinwork34** · August 09, 2011, 09:27 PM

I am playing 6.3 as Hungary H/H, And It is way to easy to make money. I have 3 full stacks, and on average 10 unit garison in every province and I am still making 7-12 thousand florins per turn. In addition I have stopped builidng financial buiuldings and lowered some tax rates to low. Is there any thing I can do? Or is there a reason why its so easy to make money? And please dont tell me that I should play as Norway on VH/VH with Gracul AI and "pigen hole" all the factions.

**popovic** · August 09, 2011, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by doinwork34

I am playing 6.3 as Hungary H/H, And It is way to easy to make money. I have 3 full stacks, and on average 10 unit garison in every province and I am still making 7-12 thousand florins per turn. In addition I have stopped builidng financial buiuldings and lowered some tax rates to low. Is there any thing I can do? Or is there a reason why its so easy to make money? And please dont tell me that I should play as Norway on VH/VH with Gracul AI and "pigen hole" all the factions.

Steps to take in order to alleviate your "heavy" situation:

1. Download 6.4 (you don`t really need it, but there is no reason not to have it);
2. Install it, and at SS_setup start TICK BGR IV;
3. ?????????????????????????????
4. Enjoy being broke all the time.

**cezarip** · August 10, 2011, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by popovic

Steps to take in order to alleviate your "heavy" situation:

1. Download 6.4 (you don`t really need it, but there is no reason not to have it);
2. Install it, and at SS_setup start TICK BGR IV;
3. ?????????????????????????????
4. Enjoy being broke all the time.

Excellent advice.

**Constantine XII** · August 10, 2011, 12:43 PM

And play as Kingdom of Jerusalem...

**doinwork34** · August 10, 2011, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Emperor Constantine the XI

And play as Kingdom of Jerusalem...

lol I was waiting for someone to say something like that

.

Also, I am on turn 53, and I am playing with real recruitment, so yes, I cant have a full stack of knights due to the fact that they take to long to recruit, which is a good thing. On the other hand there is no strategy to building or getting trade agreements or doing much of anything to make more money since you always seem to have plenty.

**bɑne** · August 10, 2011, 01:20 PM

Even with a ton of money you still can't recruit as you used to. Unless you deactivated Real Recruitment that is. What turn are you in?

**k/t** · August 10, 2011, 09:00 PM

You can go to the Mod Workshop and find out how to reduce the amount of money you get.

**Dunedain Ranger** · August 10, 2011, 09:24 PM

Go to \data\descr_settlement_mechanics.xml and alter some values. You can open it with notepad or similar programs.

SIF = Settlement Income Factors

<factor name="SIF_FARMS">
<pip_modifier value="1.0"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_TAXES">
<pip_modifier value="0.8"/>
<castle_modifier value="0.75"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_MINING">
<pip_modifier value="1.25"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_TRADE">
<pip_modifier value="1.2"/>
<castle_modifier value="0.8"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_BUILDINGS">
<pip_modifier value="1.0"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_ADMIN">
<pip_modifier value="1.0"/>

Low the modifier values to decrease your money. This should help. Dont forget the backup.

**doinwork34** · August 10, 2011, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dunedain Ranger

You can go to \data\descr_settlement_mechanics.xml and alter some values.
SIF = Settlement Income Factors

<factor name="SIF_FARMS">
<pip_modifier value="1.0"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_TAXES">
<pip_modifier value="0.8"/>
<castle_modifier value="0.75"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_MINING">
<pip_modifier value="1.25"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_TRADE">
<pip_modifier value="1.2"/>
<castle_modifier value="0.8"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_BUILDINGS">
<pip_modifier value="1.0"/>
</factor>
<factor name="SIF_ADMIN">
<pip_modifier value="1.0"/>

Low the modifier values to decrease your money. This should help. Dont forget the backup.

Very Nice. I will try this. This is the kind of solution I was looking for. Also thank you k/t for the tip, I will try this and ask around for some help!

**Dunedain Ranger** · August 10, 2011, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by doinwork34

Very Nice. I will try this. This is the kind of solution I was looking for. Also thank you k/t for the tip, I will try this and ask around for some help!

No problem mate. Open the settlement mechanics document with notepad or similar programs.
You can change there other things too.

Keep in mind:

Settlement Population Factors = SPF
Settlement Order Factors = SOF
Settlement Income Factors = SIF

Have fun.

**SplaTt** · August 11, 2011, 12:20 AM

Well what's wrong about having too much of money? I mean I'd understand if you'll complain if you havent enought, but ...

First of all, in the early time you are on (50 turn) you won't have really good units, so stacks you have propably aren't really so good or high unkeep.
Second, if you are wise ruler and handle your kingdom well it's no doubt you have money. You know what I mean, you conquer what you should, you trade where it's best and your buisness is handled by best people you can get, not some random guys with -100% to trade income.
Just use this money. Spend it to *fix* f2cked up diplomacy system in this game and make good relations with other factions. Spend it on buing of some settlements without war maybe. Spend it for fun bribing random guys on the campaing map

) Be creative about this

**Gallus** · August 11, 2011, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by SplaTt

Well what's wrong about having too much of money? I mean I'd understand if you'll complain if you havent enought, but ...

First of all, in the early time you are on (50 turn) you won't have really good units, so stacks you have propably aren't really so good or high unkeep.
Second, if you are wise ruler and handle your kingdom well it's no doubt you have money. You know what I mean, you conquer what you should, you trade where it's best and your buisness is handled by best people you can get, not some random guys with -100% to trade income.
Just use this money. Spend it to *fix* f2cked up diplomacy system in this game and make good relations with other factions. Spend it on buing of some settlements without war maybe. Spend it for fun bribing random guys on the campaing map

) Be creative about this

conquer a region in the middle of nowhere, give it to pope and buy Rome!

**k/t** · August 11, 2011, 09:36 AM

Total War not Total Bribery.

**Gamerisin** · August 11, 2011, 08:08 PM

funny...I actually was complaining with myself for not having money in my TO campaign...I think everyone here had financial problems(specially Kingdom of Jerusalem as pointed out)at some time or turn? hahaha...until I decided to invade/destroy Novgorod and Lithuania...sorry guys life sucks sometimes °_°
After I invaded Lithuania Poland declared war but I managed to hold them and started conquering them too hehehe...not smart enough since most of my units were close to their cities wich at the end are mine and only 3 remain...thing is I complaint about not enough money and now I'm frikkin' rich!!! so I don't see why to "complain" 'bout having easy money

Good luck!!!

**OPASEH** · August 11, 2011, 08:32 PM

add_money 40000

**Liandro** · August 13, 2011, 06:55 PM

I kinda go wild with loot too, anytime I play the real Romans, not sure who changed it to the Byzantines, but regardless, by the time the Mongols come out, I'm swimming in more money that Scrooge McDuck, easily over 2 million and with still barely breaking out Scoutatoi Swordsmen, I haven't even got the good stuff yet, possibly 30 regions at most. BRG on the other hand I could probably be making the same money, but I'll never know it because I can barely break 100k as the Romans, then I get bored and stop.

**Ferdiad** · August 13, 2011, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Liandro

I kinda go wild with loot too, anytime I play the real Romans, not sure who changed it to the Byzantines, but regardless, by the time the Mongols come out, I'm swimming in more money that Scrooge McDuck, easily over 2 million and with still barely breaking out Scoutatoi Swordsmen, I haven't even got the good stuff yet, possibly 30 regions at most. BRG on the other hand I could probably be making the same money, but I'll never know it because I can barely break 100k as the Romans, then I get bored and stop.

Having that much money means 2 things:
1.You cheat
2.You have a tiny army and a

ton of Cities.

**k/t** · August 13, 2011, 11:54 PM

Sofia, Canakkale, Rhodes, Arta and Durazzo can happily become cities.

**Ferdiad** · August 14, 2011, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by k/t

Sofia, Canakkale, Rhodes, Arta and Durazzo can happily become cities.

Still not enough to get 2 mil before Scoutati.

**Finkeren** · August 18, 2011, 08:03 AM

It's funny, since I upgraded to 6.4 I find it much easier to make money, at least up to the point where I have to spend fortunes building walled cities, and even then it's still less punishing than I remember from 6.1. I still haven't played a campaign up to the Black Death, so I might be in for a nasty surprise, but it's certainly easier to get started than it was before.

I've just started an early campaign as HRE and after 20 turns where I've had constant construction going on in every single town and castle, all taxes on "low" and trained litterally every single unit the RR-system would let me (propably bought something like a full stack of mercenaries too) I'm now sitting on a pile of gold, roughly 50.000 and growing by 1 or 2 grand every turn!