Miles
Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14417362
I think this is an interesting article. In my opinion, this is a significant progress into making Christianity to be more logical philosophical-based religion like Buddhism rather than some sort of an authoritative ritual. Being a maybe-agnostic-but-doubtful-Christian myself, I might join them.
What's your take on this?
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Comrade Natascha
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Atheist... Christians... Does not compute.Nor does Klaas Hendrikse believe that God exists at all as a supernatural thing.
"When it happens, it happens down to earth, between you and me, between people, that's where it can happen. God is not a being at all... it's a word for experience, or human experience."
The only thing between that guy and the most likely unpleasant experience of being served extra crispy at the town square is the perceived need to preserve the forests.You don't have to believe that Jesus was physically resurrected
No, seriously, I think it's great that people reject organised religion and centuries of dogma, but for the love of God (no pun intended) at least be honest about it.
Under the stern but loving patronage of Nihil.
Senator
Reine
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
More modernistic stupidity.
"Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)
Praeses
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Originally Posted by Jean de la Valette
Petit Burgués
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
You mean Post-Modernistic stupidity.
Remember we Modernists still put our faith in scientific Institutions and Laws
Under the Patronage of Maximinus Thrax
Reine
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Actually, it's just more fluff trying to soften the Bible for an audience of hybristical humanists. These people are actually incapable of making the effort to believe, they are too modern for it. God deliver me from the Modern psyche.You mean Post-Modernistic stupidity.
Remember we Modernists still put our faith in scientific Institutions and Laws
"Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)
Praeses
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
or they have read the bible and seen how murderously sick it is.....
Vicarius Provinciae
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
" or they have read the bible and seen how murderously sick it is....."
justicar5,
For sure all the warts are there to be seen as the people of God made their journey through life as each book tells. Perhaps you would prefer not to know how hard it was and still is for fallen man concerning God's feelings towards him? I mean what better than to take out the very Person who can alter the yoke that hangs about the necks of them and replace that with something that has no power at all as this man wants to do.
People don't need others to make God impotent, as if that could happen, no, they need hope even if that hope seems beyond them. Perhaps if preachers told the Gospel as it is in the raw rather than the mealymouthed watered down versions they do tell of the churches would be full again. Fallen men and women need to hear it as it is from God's standpoint.
Centenarius
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Or they are twisting the Bible into something it never was. Their inserting their own philosophy into their interpretation of the narrative which is just gross intellectual dishonesty. All of this, I may add, out of some foul attempt to ingratiate themselves with relativistic and postmodernist nonsense.
“We humans do not understand compassion. In each moment of our lives, we betray it. Aye, we know of its worth, yet in knowing we then attach to it a value, we guard the giving of it, believing it must be earned, T’lan Imass. Compassion is priceless in the truest sense of the word. It must be given freely. In abundance.”
― Steven Erikson, Memories of Ice
“The heart of wisdom is tolerance.”
― Steven Erikson, Memories of Ice
Campidoctor
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Which is in every measurable way superior to medieval stupidity... So yes, more please.
Reine
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
The moderns are more ignorant and limited than the medievals.
"Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)
Campidoctor
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Step in the right direction
"The Turks are never trapped. It's the people who surround them who are in trouble."Anthony Hebert
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." Christopher Hitchens
Dux Limitis
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
You mean like Gnosticism? Its not exactly a new idea you know, its older than Christianity itself.
The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
Primicerius
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
I do believe I owe that priest a medal.
Remember to smile
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Are we talking about pantheism?
~Wille
Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga- The pranks played on the knight Jean de Joinville, 1249, 7th crusade.I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
http://imgur.com/a/DMm19
Dux Limitis
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Though if all he believes in is a purely material existence he is a Richard Dawkins grade atheist. You can't really modernise Christianity by turning it into atheism, you may as well just be an atheist.
The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
Senator
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
This is just atheism. Why bother calling I Christianity? It's dishonest.
+Rep for anyone who can translate! (The above)
Auta i lóme! Aurë entuluva!
Comes Limitis
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Because they still think Jesus represents a good person whether or not he existed and that elements of it are still useful for fairy tales
The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
The search for intelligent life continues...
VELUTI SI DEUS DARETUR
Re: Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world
Indeed. Happy news. Thomas Jefferson's prediction appears to be coming true.Because they still think Jesus represents a good person whether or not he existed and that elements of it are still useful for fairy tales
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