One opinion, perhaps biased

**~~Ummon~~** · March 28, 2006, 12:29 PM

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=49459

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
'We're on the eve of World War III'
Ex-Mossad chief urges West to unite, warns of Muslims imposing ideology

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

JERUSALEM – Global civilization is on the verge of "World War III," a massive conflict in which the Islamic world will attempt to impose its ideology on Western nations, according to Meir Amit, a former director of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency.

Amit, one of the most esteemed figures in the international defense establishment, warned Islamic nations and global Islamist groups will continue launching "all kinds of attacks" against Western states. He urged the international community to immediately unite and coordinate a strategy to fight against the "Islamic war."

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**Matrix33** · March 28, 2006, 12:37 PM

Hmm...
The question is.... Is it real warning against real danger or is it nice try to unite western world in defence of... Israel which IS in real danger...
I don't know...

**danzig** · March 28, 2006, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Matrix33

Hmm...
The question is.... Is it real warning against real danger or is it nice try to unite western world in defence of... Israel which IS in real danger...
I don't know...

What danger is Israel in? The only danger would be missile strikes from Iran which in turn Israel would respond, Israel is more then capable of defending itself against its neighbors as it has shown in the past.

**Elu Barcino** · March 28, 2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by danzig

What danger is Israel in? The only danger would be missile strikes from Iran which in turn Israel would respond, Israel is more then capable of defending itself against its neighbors as it has shown in the past.

Besides, I don't think Egypt or Jordan would really want to attack Israel any more, which leaves only Syria to act as a base to actually launch an invasion from...

**Aristophanes** · March 31, 2006, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Matrix33

Hmm...
The question is.... Is it real warning against real danger or is it nice try to unite western world in defence of... Israel which IS in real danger...
I don't know...

Considering the Jews' traditional vocation as canaries in the coal mine...

**~~Ummon~~** · March 28, 2006, 12:41 PM

A good question.

**Perikles** · March 28, 2006, 12:43 PM

The real threat to world peace at the moment is the Muslim Nations. Divided they can't conquer, but together they could take Israel and launch a sucessful invasion of Europe. Which would be easily repulsed before they could say 'Jihad'...

The only real threat from muslims is within our own borders...

**Garbarsardar** · March 28, 2006, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Perikles

The real threat to world peace at the moment is the Muslim Nations. Divided they can't conquer, but together they could take Israel and launch a sucessful invasion of Europe. Which would be easily repulsed before they could say 'Jihad'...

The only real threat from muslims is within our own borders...

Then I wouldn't call it "successful". It is like: "Today the allied forces launched a successful landing on the beaches of Normandy which was unfortunately easily repulsed"... :laughing:

And there is a "real threat" and an "only real threat", and is it "inside our borders" or "the Muslim Nations" (which are presumably outside "our" borders)?

Don't post under the influence bro' !

**~~Ummon~~** · March 28, 2006, 12:48 PM

Now imagine is China and Russia joined against the west denouncing "western imperialism" against Islam. A possibility for which we must thank the Bush fool, who embarked in a completely illegitimate (or at least illegitimate-looking) war against Iraq instead of simply trying to capture Bin Laden.

Because the price of Iraqi "freedom" can't be world stability.

Putin is a totalitarian and a communist. Just look at what he is doing in Ukraine and Belarus. He wants to restore Russian power. Does it look more worrying now?

**Freddie** · March 31, 2006, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ummon

Now imagine is China and Russia joined against the west denouncing "western imperialism" against Islam. A possibility for which we must thank the Bush fool, who embarked in a completely illegitimate (or at least illegitimate-looking) war against Iraq instead of simply trying to capture Bin Laden.

Unlikely since China there are plenty of reports coming from China about authorities cracking down on religious groups forming whether it's Islam or Christianity.

**RusskiSoldat** · March 28, 2006, 07:41 PM

If the muslims all got together (really ****ing unlikely) they still couldn't hope to acheive much more than some guerilla raids and the rise of fanatical right wing governments in Europe which will support geonicide of muslims.

**Denny Crane!** · March 29, 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat

If the muslims all got together (really ****ing unlikely) they still couldn't hope to acheive much more than some guerilla raids and the rise of fanatical right wing governments in Europe which will support geonicide of muslims.

Just to play devils advocate though. If there was a country in the future in the EU with more muslims than european natives (a likely scenario) and they all voted in favour of shariah law and it was instituted is that not usurping western values as democracy would wither under such conditions.

PEter

**MadKow** · March 29, 2006, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by cowen70

Just to play devils advocate though. If there was a country in the future in the EU with more muslims than european natives (a likely scenario) and they all voted in favour of shariah law and it was instituted is that not usurping western values as democracy would wither under such conditions.

PEter

A likely scenario? Where do you get that idea from? Well, if Bosnia and Turkey join the EU, thats inevitable. There will be countries with muslim majorities. But in that case they join in EU terms.

The clash of civilizations theory is not a very constructive frame for thought.

**Denny Crane!** · March 29, 2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by MadKow

A likely scenario? Where do you get that idea from? Well, if Bosnia and Turkey join the EU, thats inevitable. There will be countries with muslim majorities. But in that case they join in EU terms.

The clash of civilizations theory is not a very constructive frame for thought.

Is it denmark or holland I have forgotten where at the present rate of immigration and population growth that the muslim population will outnumber the non muslim population in a matter of decades. If they vote in shariah law then it is democratic and yet it is usurping the western ideals of freedoma nd democracy.

Clash of civilisations is a reality so how can it not be a constructive frame for thought. Have you slept through the last decade or something.

Peter

**Perikles** · March 29, 2006, 11:32 AM

If any group, muslim or not, tried to over throw the elected government of my country and impose their own laws it would be over my dead body.....

On a side note I would like to congratulate Garbarsardar for taking apart my post...

Originally Posted by Garbarsardar

Then I wouldn't call it "successful". It is like: "Today the allied forces launched a successful landing on the beaches of Normandy which was unfortunately easily repulsed"...

When I said that I was meaning, if they had the notion of invading Europe and therefore actually set foot on European soil, which would be sucessfully reaching Europe, they would be just as easily repulsed....

And there is a "real threat" and an "only real threat", and is it "inside our borders" or "the Muslim Nations" (which are presumably outside "our" borders)?

Don't post under the influence bro' !

If you read the rest of my post you might have noticed I meant the Muslim nations together. But seen as they aren't together the only real threat at the moment is from within our own borders....

Warning! All posts made by me are made after getting up really early, a day at school and a paper round(up and down England's green and pleasant land)....

**Garbarsardar** · March 29, 2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Perikles

If any group, muslim or not, tried to over throw the elected government of my country and impose their own laws it would be over my dead body.....

On a side note I would like to congratulate Garbarsardar for taking apart my post...
When I said that I was meaning, if they had the notion of invading Europe and therefore actually set foot on European soil, which would be sucessfully reaching Europe, they would be just as easily repulsed....
If you read the rest of my post you might have noticed I meant the Muslim nations together. But seen as they aren't together the only real threat at the moment is from within our own borders....

Warning! All posts made by me are made after getting up really early, a day at school and a paper round(up and down England's green and pleasant land)....

Don't worry I knew what you meant, I have posted similar confusing things, usually late at night...

**bigfootedfred** · March 29, 2006, 01:13 PM

Ex-Mossad chief urges West to unite, warns of Muslims imposing ideology

Well...

JERUSALEM – Global civilization is on the verge of "World War III," a massive conflict in which the Islamic world will attempt to impose its ideology on Western nations, according to Meir Amit, a former director of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency.

Amit, one of the most esteemed figures in the international defense establishment, warned Islamic nations and global Islamist groups will continue launching "all kinds of attacks" against Western states. He urged the international community to immediately unite and coordinate a strategy to fight against the "Islamic war."

Pure Gold.
The Ex chief of Israel 'intelligence service, which has attacked US warships attempting to make it look like Arabs,
And has a long history of trying to get the west involved in its wars...
Tells the 'West' that WW3 is coming, and of course the enemy, are the Islamic nations...
Well what a bloody suprise!

Many in the Islamic world see this statement

the Islamic world will attempt to impose its ideology on Western nations

As completely the opposite.
And they have slightly more solid proof, everyday, happening right now kind of proof, if they make such a claim.

**Perikles** · March 29, 2006, 12:15 PM

Do you think that immigration will have gone to far if the immigrants do ever start to outnumber the 'natives' in an EU country?
I certainly do, I think that unlimited immigration in to the UK is starting to reach it's limit and it's expiry date....

**Perikles** · March 29, 2006, 01:18 PM

The problem is that Muslims are trying to force their beliefs on us. Take the Cartoon 'riots', they were complaining about some cartoons, hardly worth burning embassies down for. Many Muslims also want to impose Sharia law which is quite medieval really.
But in Iraq and Afghanistan I suppose they think that we are trying to impose things on them. If you leave us alone, we will leave you alone.

**stop-3** · March 31, 2006, 09:28 AM

We are all doomed! Let us fear the muslim bogeyman that wants to destroy our precious way of life!

WHAT UTTER BOLLOCKS

I don't fear the islamists one jot. They don't bother me in my life at all. They do not at all force their beliefs on me, or anyone I know. They do not take monies from me by force or tell me what to do or think in the slightest. Howeaver, here in 'cool britannia' there are forces in seemingly infinite plenty that do just that! Mad-evil-power-mad-nutters in charge of these forces no less and not muslim!

Fear them, fear them.