View Poll Results: What do you think about illegal immigrants being hired at substandard wages?

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  • It's despicable. Nobody should be taken advantage of like that.

    21 28.00%
  • Deport the illegals, but penalize the companies that hired them.

    38 50.67%
  • I'm okay with it. Now give me a Big Mac!

    7 9.33%
  • THEY TOOK OUR JOBS! Dey duk er jurbs!

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    IronBrig4's Avatar Good Matey
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    Default Hiring illegal immigrants

    As much as I dislike illegal immigration, I don't think they should be exploited by both big and small companies. No, the illegal immigrants shouldn't be here. Yes, they should receive the same wages for doing the same work. It's only fair. Wal-Mart has given me yet another reason to despise that monstrous chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBrig4
    As much as I dislike illegal immigration, I don't think they should be exploited by both big and small companies.
    I share your opinion.
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    If they are not techically in our country legally, then I don't think the normal wage laws apply in their case.

    (Voted the second option)

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    I don't think that the immigrants should be exploited but remember that they are illegal. The immigrants have entered the country illegally and should be deported or become legal, the companies should be fined for hiring these people who don't pay tax and taking advantage of them.

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    I think they should be deported. They take alot of jobs from the legal population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major König
    They take alot of jobs from the legal population.
    most of those jobs that the legal population doesn't want. It's the same with every new wave of immigrants. They take the jobs that those who have been assimilated don't want. It happened with the Irish, the Blacks, the Italians, the Eastern Europeans and now with the Hispanics. Now, that said, the majority of those who came before the Hispanics entered legally. But I agree that the issue with illegal immigration should be dealt with. So I say either they assimilate and we make them legal or we deport them.


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    They Took Er Jeeeeeebs

    Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major König
    I think they should be deported. They take alot of jobs from the legal population.
    You mean the slave jobs that they get paid 5 cents a hour for, is that the jobs you are talking about...

    Do you want that job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major König
    I think they should be deported. They take alot of jobs from the legal population.
    for once I have to agree with this nazi lover

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    How can so many feel sorry for them?? They have come to a country illegal! They are stealing jobs! They know they do something very wrong and still they come to another civilizesed country like parasites! You cant have sympathyse for parasites!!!
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habelo
    How can so many feel sorry for them?? They have come to a country illegal! They are stealing jobs! They know they do something very wrong and still they come to another civilizesed country like parasites! You cant have sympathyse for parasites!!!
    Well than my friend, are you going to pick up that janitors bucket and start scrubbing human excrement from walls? Or pick strawberries (backbreaking, brutal work), or be a gardener, or many of the other extremely menial jobs that illegal immigrants fill, that aren't being "stolen" from Americans.
    "I will call them my people,
    which were not my people;
    and her beloved,
    which was not beloved"
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    Quote Originally Posted by internationalist
    Well than my friend, are you going to pick up that janitors bucket and start scrubbing human excrement from walls? Or pick strawberries (backbreaking, brutal work), or be a gardener, or many of the other extremely menial jobs that illegal immigrants fill, that aren't being "stolen" from Americans.
    I don't know about America but in Britain it's not that we don't have a workforce to do the more menial jobs, it's that the rate of pay for unskilled labour is so low that they can't tempt anybody to do it. We still have around about 1.5 million unemployed in Britan, so we don't need illegal immigrant labour, it's just that the difference between someone taking a low paid job or remaining on benefits is not enough in financial terms to make it attractive.
    So, if companies paid a decent wage in the frirst place they would'nt have to rely on labour from abroad.
    Last edited by Yorkshireman; March 30, 2006 at 09:43 AM.

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    option #2, companies need to pay a price to realize they cant abuse people with basically unlivable wages and the only reason they get away with it is because they are illegals. Exploiting people is exploiting people regardless of their legal status, that said illegals also have no business in the country. I hardly have anti immigrant views but I do have anti illegal immigrant ones, if want to come to this country do so legally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habelo
    How can so many feel sorry for them?? They have come to a country illegal! They are stealing jobs! They know they do something very wrong and still they come to another civilizesed country like parasites! You cant have sympathyse for parasites!!!
    Oh Christ. It's not like they are slaughtering legal Americans wholesale. They are looking for work, a way to survive. Something they can't find in their homeland. And they are "stealing" jobs no one else wants. You don't seem to realize that.
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    Default Re: Hiring illegal immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman
    Oh Christ. It's not like they are slaughtering legal Americans wholesale. They are looking for work, a way to survive. Something they can't find in their homeland. And they are "stealing" jobs no one else wants. You don't seem to realize that.
    That's rubbish. They are stealing jobs, causing crime, destroying immigration, and ruining the economy. They charge less for themselves and they put other American workers out of jobs. It is the same reason why slavery was abolished: slaves destroy competition because they can sell themselves for cheaper than minimum wage. Crime is caused because they're paid so badly an illegal activity is a natural reaction. Real immigrants have to go through long processes and I think they would be ****** off to see illegals just walking into the country they had to apply for.

    Since when should America give a damn about any other citizen of a foreign country?!!! The American government looks out for the American people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikinWest
    It is the same reason why slavery was abolished: slaves destroy competition because they can sell themselves for cheaper than minimum wage.
    Hmm.
    Slaves sold themselves? Wow thats quite a revisionist view on history you have there.
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikinWest
    Since when should America give a damn about any other citizen of a foreign country?!!! The American government looks out for the American people!
    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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    which were not my people;
    and her beloved,
    which was not beloved"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habelo
    How can so many feel sorry for them?? They have come to a country illegal! They are stealing jobs! They know they do something very wrong and still they come to another civilizesed country like parasites! You cant have sympathyse for parasites!!!
    So the people who are working on slave wages are stealing, and you my friend, are reciving the benfits of low-cost work, you are been stolen from, if anything "you" are stealing from them...

    They should recive the same pay as everyone else for the job, and come ligaley....

    I find it funny when people acuse slaves for stealing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legiondude
    So the people who are working on slave wages are stealing, and you my friend, are reciving the benfits of low-cost work, you are been stolen from, if anything "you" are stealing from them...

    They should recive the same pay as everyone else for the job, and come ligaley....

    I find it funny when people acuse slaves for stealing
    Mayby they are stealing my summer job? Some kids that need money.. And those jobs that really noone want can immogrants have, thought not illegal ones. Thats what we do in sweden
    You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?

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    bic mac plz

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